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Hatim Zaghloul

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (academics), and the article is written in a promotional and advertising tone, and lacks neutrality. فيصل (talk) 19:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rakan Daqar

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There is no Reliable Sources at all. Untamed1910 (talk) 22:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Could not find any reliable sources and it fails WP:GNG and should be deleted Untamed1910 (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whitney_Wright

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Actor that fails to meet the notability guidelines of WP:ENT: Does not have significant roles in multiple notable productions, nor have they made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. The only reliable secondary source about the subject relates to how this pornographic actor went to Iran, posted some photos on social media, and has cause a social media controversy online. This doesn't establish notability as an entertainer, and is exclusively be tied to a single event that is largely unrelated to the subject's profession as an entertainer. Davidwbaker (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: a few years ago, a group of users has managed to create a consensus that states that pornographic entertainers are basically not notable for what they do (their awards do not count, the coverage from the industry does not count, etc.). However the torrent of coverage W. Wright received for her political opinions shows her notability as porn actress is recognised outside WP and outside industry/adult coverage. That's why I think the article could be retained. NB-Coverage is international and includes reliable media, Guardian, Al Jazeera, Euronews, Hindustan Times, and so on. Despite this being limited in time, my !vote is based on the fact that it confirms her more general notability (since PORNBIO has been "cancelled"). (Note: I am the one who DPDd the page- same nominator, as I didn't juge deletion uncontroversial). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Meets GNG with the Guardian and the AP source. Coverage in a few different news sources [1] as well. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aref Jalayeri

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Doesn't meet WP:NMUSICBIO. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I agree that the article does not show any information warranting nobility, nor do the sources. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as written. Entirely dependent on below-par sources. BD2412 T 14:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kheibar Shekan

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This article is about an Iranian ballistic missile. The article is clearly written from a fan or someone with a pecuniary or otherwise disallowed interest in the matter, which violates WP:NPOV. Alongside this, the article relies on Persian sources, which would challenge WP:MOS. These sources are biased and the majority are from Iranian state-sponsored news sources and agencies, and the author had designed it this way. The article also has a large amount of grammatical and otherwise errors. I would have liked for the article to remain with a NPOV and grammatically correct form, however at this point I believe that it is too far gone. DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 08:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article's tone is a little odd, but it's okay to like missiles. Also, googling the subject immediately gives a number of reliable sources, which are also in English:

Current article may be bad but if it's bad enough to delete the article can honestly just be blanked and restarted as a stub. Maybe delete everything cited to state-sponsored news, condense the rest, and leave it at that? Mrfoogles (talk) 09:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may be OK to like missiles, I do myself, however that isn't a justification for failing WP:NPOV? DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 09:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as there are plenty of sources. It’s daft to object to Iranian sources about an Iranian missile. Deletion is not cleanup so if the tone and language need to be improved, anyone can go ahead and improve them. Mccapra (talk) 10:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehran Tebyani

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Moved from draft by conflicted editor, no evidence of passing WP:GNG primary sources and interviews don't help with notability. Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redraftify until notability issues fixed. Procyon117 (talk) 14:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehran Tebyani

is a notable figure in the field of music, particularly recognized for being the first Iranian conductor to hold a doctoral degree. His contributions to the music industry are significant and well-documented. Here are key points highlighting his notability and accomplishments:

Academic Achievements: Mehran Tebyani holds a doctoral degree, making him the first Iranian conductor to achieve this level of academic success in the field.
Publications: He has published a book in Iran, which contributes to his recognition as a scholar and expert in music.
Media Coverage: Tebyani has been interviewed by numerous newspapers in Iran, demonstrating his influence and prominence in the Iranian music scene.
Radio Sessions: During his time in Los Angeles, he hosted a radio session dedicated to the history of music for one year, further showcasing his expertise and commitment to educating the public about music.
Concerts and Performances: He has conducted several concerts at UCLA in Los Angeles, adding to his international recognition and illustrating his active involvement in the music community.

Dr.Hana jalili (talk) 06:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2019 CAFA U-16 Championship

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Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage Mdann52 (talk) 08:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. the initial delete nomination (lack independent sourcing):

Link 1 by Khovar.tj National Information Agency of Tajikistan/ not related to CAFA

Link 2 Tasnim News Agency an Iranian new agency Independent from CAFA

Link 3 Turkmen news agency which is also Independent from CAFA

Link 4 Sport.kg an Information Agency; Sport.kg is the only specialized portal in Kyrgyzstan

and many more; that i will add to the article to enhance it sourcing

2. The tournament is organized by the Central Asian Football Association (CAFA), which oversees football in Central Asia. CAFA is a member of the AFC and, therefore, FIFA. As an international competition between member nations, the tournament holds significant notability. This is particularly relevant now, as some footballers who participated in the tournament are becoming prominent figures in Central Asian football and across Asia. The tournament shall be cited as the beginning of their international careers, further emphasizing its importance. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 09:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I included more resources from other independent sources such as:
jomhornews.com, m.kun.uz, trt.net.tr, and sport.kg. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 10:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GiantSnowman can you please specify what's make a tournament notable enough; so i can send the sources that adresse it ? Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Significant coverage - the sources above are WP:ROUTINE. Giant Snowman 13:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Matchday 1:

Tajikistan v Uzbekistan at sports.uz

Kyrgyzstan v Afghansitan at sport.kg

Matchday 2:

Uzbekistan v Iran at Tasnimnews.com

Uzbekistan v Iran at Sports.uz

Tajikistan v Kyrgyzstan at avesta.tj

Matchday 3:

Iran v Afghanistan at Irannewsdaily.com

Iran v Afghanistan at farsi.alarabiya.net

Iran v Afghanistan at avapress.com

Kyrgyzstan v Uzbekistan at sport.kg

Matchday 4:

Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at Turkmenportal.com

Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at sport.kg

Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at Kabar.kg

Afghanistan v Uzbekistan at sputnik.af

Afghanistan v Uzbekistan at dzen.ru

Matchday 5:

Kyrgyzstan v Iran at Tansimnews.com

Tajikistan v Afghanistan at sputnik.af

Iran

All matches reports at toopball.com

Kyrgyzstan

Kyrgystan at for.kg

Other tournament reports
Champion at rus.ozodi.org

Championship at nm.tj

Schedule at ilna.ir

Should I add more? The tournament's matches were covered by all the top news agencies in Central Asia.

Also Asian Football Confederation did post all these covering the tournament
Matchday 1

Matchday 2

Matchday 3

Matchday 4

Matchday 5

Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment International level competition and there are sources, however they are very young. So I am not sure at what level wikipedia should be keeping these. Govvy (talk) 10:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep
let us remember that The Central Asian Football Association (CAFA) was only formed in 2015, and with the tournament being the 8th tournament organised, CAFA has shown significant progress in promoting and developing football in the region. Over the years, CAFA has developed its media coverage and reporting capabilities, making the tournaments more accessible and notable. While the first editions may have had limited coverage due to CAFA's emerging stage and limited experience, the organization's growth and increased attention highlight the importance of these early stages articles being there.

Furthermore, for Central Asia, where international sports events are relatively scarce, CAFA's tournaments hold notable significance. The early editions of the tournament are crucial for understanding the development of football in the region and providing a better statistical context. As CAFA continues to grow and attract more attention, the historical records of all editions, including the first ones, will be valuable for researchers, fans, and anyone interested in the football in Central Asia.

Therefore, despite its relatively young age, CAFA's tournaments are notable and deserving of coverage on Wikipedia, as they contribute to the broader narrative of international sports in Central Asia. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Blue (film)

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From the current state of the article, it is clear it doesn't meet WP:NFILM; no critical review from reliable sources or rating in any film rating platform. If sources are found, ping me. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination statement to which I have nothing to add. Ednabrenze (talk) 07:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Iranian films of the 2000s: given the notable cast. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Appears to fail WP:NFILM. The director looks notable for other projects and probably merits an article. But the only non-trivial mention of this film I can find is a short summary in a BBC article about the director. hinnk (talk) 04:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadakiyans

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I was not able to verify the existence of this dynasty - the four references used in the article are also difficult to verify. Semsûrî (talk) 19:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Cambridge History of Iran, Vol. 4, p. 227: "In other towns, too, Arab chieftains came to build their castles and dominated the inhabitants ... in Urmiya Sadaqa b. 'Ali, a client of Azd". See also https://iranicaonline.org/articles/rawwadids. I cannot verify the article as a whole or confirm if this is a notable dynasty, but it does not appear to be a fabrication. Srnec (talk) 00:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete sourcing is weak, and does not sufficiently convey the idea of a "dynasty"; if the individuals involved are notable, they should have their own article, but their three-generation "dynasty" is almost certainly not. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason that there is so little knowledge about them is that they lived over 1,000 years ago and only ruled for around 50 years in a region wich was made up of villages, lots of mountains and a few small cities. Besides that, they seem to be the first Kurdish dynasty in History, so little information is to be expected. Karkafs Desiderium (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is why they are not notable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Two of the references are from journals which are the subject of articles in the English Wikipedia: Revue du monde musulman and Revue des études islamiques, and the third cites the first edition of Encyclopaedia of Islam. References do not have to be online to be valid, but editors with access to a university library might be able to access online or printed versions of the references. The fourth reference, perhaps added in error, was in a battle infobox that another editor removed. It was to the book The sword of Persia : Nader Shah, from tribal warrior to conquering tyrant, about Nader Shah, who was ruler of Persia much later, from 1736 to 1747. That fourth reference is no longer in the particle, but I think the three remaining references are good ones. I think the article is adequately referenced. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't know what content is covered by the references and what is unsourced. The third and last reference is on the fifth line of the article. Semsûrî (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notcoin

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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 11#Notcoin, as the redirect target of Telegram (software), or any other target, was not found suitable. The page had been moved to draftspace on the day of its creation, as not ready for mainspace, however the creator had rejected the draftification. Jay 💬 06:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Telegram: Significant coverage in BBC Pidgin and likely in the non-English articles as well (which I cannot read). Telegram article is long but could easily accommodate a short section on the game, which seems to have drawn attention. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete what is this? A game? A crypto-coin? A ponzi scheme? The sources don't say (and are largely about a related game called "Hamster Combat"), which demonstrates that there is insufficiently substantial coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I am opposed to a redirect to Telegram (software). If this content were on the Telegram article, I would remove it as WP:UNDUE and inherently somewhat promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Persian article has همستر کامبت (Hamster Kombat) as the article subject: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%87%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%AA Hamster Kombat and Notcoin seem like they are separate crypto games on Telegram? From machine translation and the images, the sources cited in the English article, like this one, appear to be about Hamster Kombat or crypto games in general, not about Notcoin. For a redirect, Telegram (software) seems an appropriate target. I'll abstain from voting, though, because I can't read most of the coverage on these games. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Open Network (TON). The Persian-language sources seem to be primarily about a hamster-related game of a different name that employs the Notcoin/"Natcoin" token. But I'm not seeing WP:SIGCOV for Notcoin itself, at least not in sources that clear WP:NCRYPTO; however, WP:TRADES sources ([2], [3]) do show evidence that it's a major game/token on TON, so as an AtD that redirect makes sense. Like Walsh90210 I would oppose a redirect to Telegram. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet more unimportant cryptotrash. Nate • (chatter) 16:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete. fails general notability guideline. subject of article is also unfocused. ltb d l (talk) 06:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – what an unholy mess. Plainly not remotely suitably sourced, and the article content wanders all over the place. Draftify if the user wants, but since they don't seem to want that, deletion is the right option. Possibly salt so they don't do it again. Or block them, of course. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh

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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would urge anyone who comments in this discussion to look on the talk page from (one of) the subjects of the article. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If agreement is that there is enough information to split, I think this is a good idea. Otherwise, I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh's name be removed from this article per request and this article moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller per your suggestion. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A person claiming to be one of the subjects of the article requested that it be deleted because they don't want to be associated with the other person? The title is probably inappropriate and would be more appropriate as something else but this does appear to be a notable event. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the editor claiming to be the subject says on the talk page that she paid $300 to have her Wikipedia article written. Is this the current draft, created by an editor who has edited no other topic? PamD 22:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Evin Prison. This is a case of WP:BLP1E; Rostampour and Amirizadeh got a lot of coverage related to their prison ordeal and release, but it wasn't sustained. Amirizadeh's run for state office wouldn't be independently notable. With the apparent request for deletion by one of the subjects, the balance tilts more strongly to delete. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iran Proposed deletions

Standardized Patient (via WP:PROD on 29 January 2024)

Iraq

Al-Rashid, Baghdad

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I couldn't find reliable sources to confirm any of this information. Boleyn (talk) 16:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Also could not find sources Mrfoogles (talk) 16:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Administrative districts in Baghdad. Reywas92^Talk 18:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. We have articles on all the administrative districts of Baghdad. It makes no sense to just delete this one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Whitney_Wright

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Actor that fails to meet the notability guidelines of WP:ENT: Does not have significant roles in multiple notable productions, nor have they made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. The only reliable secondary source about the subject relates to how this pornographic actor went to Iran, posted some photos on social media, and has cause a social media controversy online. This doesn't establish notability as an entertainer, and is exclusively be tied to a single event that is largely unrelated to the subject's profession as an entertainer. Davidwbaker (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: a few years ago, a group of users has managed to create a consensus that states that pornographic entertainers are basically not notable for what they do (their awards do not count, the coverage from the industry does not count, etc.). However the torrent of coverage W. Wright received for her political opinions shows her notability as porn actress is recognised outside WP and outside industry/adult coverage. That's why I think the article could be retained. NB-Coverage is international and includes reliable media, Guardian, Al Jazeera, Euronews, Hindustan Times, and so on. Despite this being limited in time, my !vote is based on the fact that it confirms her more general notability (since PORNBIO has been "cancelled"). (Note: I am the one who DPDd the page- same nominator, as I didn't juge deletion uncontroversial). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Meets GNG with the Guardian and the AP source. Coverage in a few different news sources [4] as well. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yossi Elran

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One of a number of BLP recently created directly to main space by קוונטום דוץ. Multiple editors have pointed out issues with these such as notability, sourcing, refbombing. This is perhaps the weakest. Lecturer with an h-factor of 8, no major awards, no major mentions, weak independent sourcing and many unsourced paragraphs. Ldm1954 (talk) 06:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Citations too low for WP:PROF#C1 and no other PROF criterion apparent. I did find one sort-of-published book review, by notable reviewer Adhemar Bultheel on the now-defunct book review site of the European Mathematical Society [5], but that's not enough by itself for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that we will examine your behavior, then each and every of your claims. There have been elapsed 32 minutes since the moment you marked the entry until you put it under discussion for deletion. I assume your were so insulted by my comment in your talk page that you've determined to teach me a lesson. Ok, well. Let us now examine your comments one by one:

1. "Multiple editors have pointed out issues with these such as notability, sourcing, refbombing" - there were only issues in Eli Jerby and you were the one that have decided to crusade the entry. Refbombing? are you serious? to cite academic articles is refbombing?

2. "Lecturer with an h-factors of 8" - Yossi Elran is mainly notable not as a scientist but as an educator. h-index (and not h-factor, I expect you to know that) is irrelevant in this case.

3. "No major awards" - I understand that you have a fantastic aquaintance with all the awards and accolades in education and science journalism.

4. "Weak independent sourcing" - sorry, I don't have plenty of times like you to mend an entry within 32 minutes.

Have a wonderful day. קוונטום דוץ (talk) 07:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

pls delete page thanks Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

pls keep or delete page thanks Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article doesn't show notability, and a WP:BEFORE search didn't find anything that would meet WP:ORGCRIT. It's all routine announcements and trivial coverage, mainly in press releases. bonadea contributions talk 10:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Panorays

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Article seemingly lacks any sources aside from trade press. Even then a significant amount of coverage is related to fundraising events. Brandon (talk) 05:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no evidence of notability. Sources in the article mentioned the subject in passing, some are PR materials except one that give significant coverage and seems reliable. Ednabrenze (talk) 07:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Denial of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel

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For similar reasons as the previous nomination. The page still does not address a notable subject and therefore fails WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 00:01, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Where is the last AfD so we can compare? Oaktree b (talk) 02:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last AfD came when the article was titled at Denial of the 7 October attacks, and thus is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denial of the 7 October attacks. (I have no opinion or further comment.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh boy, I remember that one... Yes, I'm not keen on wading into that again either. Oaktree b (talk) 05:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete or merge into the parent. Quite so. It doesn't address a notable subject. The page largely revolves around and is organised based on one Washington Post piece, as broadcast loudly and proudly by its horribly unencyclopedic first sentence. "Denial" topics normally only emerge when supported by the weight of significant scholarship. What we have here is instead a collection of WP:NOTNEWS-flouting material, with one US news piece used as a washing line to string up a mixed bag of Israeli news pieces WP:COATRACK-style. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

keep but balance - It's currently skewed and opinionated, but it's a widely discussed topic that might warrant inclusion. It should possibly be expanded to include famine denial in the other direction. Denialism (and accusations of it) are closely related to misinformation, but not quite the same concept, so it doesn't fit as a section of that article to merge. MWQs (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I keep hearing about people denying that Hamas really did this or that Hamas really did that, mostly rumor-level, so my knee-jerk is that reliable sourcing for an article on this subject probably exists, either under its current subject or refocused to conspiracy theories about the 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza conflict more generally. Per MWQ, I'd be willing to vote keep if we have even one Wikipedian who volunteers to do the considerable work of making the necessary improvements. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge. Seems reliable enough sourcing. Needs some rework, its hard to read in some places in its current form. The background section should probably just be an excerpt from the original article. A lot more quotes than necessary too.

Delete - POV fork. Carrite (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of which article? gidonb (talk) 01:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I would say "merge", but the content of the article is somewhat indiscriminately written, and I don't think it really belongs anywhere. It is citing all kinds of silly stuff like "some people on Reddit said something dumb" -- #wow #whoa. In March 2024 the Israeli firm CyberWell, which uses artificial intelligence (AI) to monitor, analyze and combat antisemitism on social media sounds like it fell off the back of a press kit -- frankly, half the stuff in here sounds like that. We should not just be directly regurgitating stuff we find in PDFs on think tanks' websites about the malnarrative playbook or whatever. jp×g 🗯️ 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per GNG. Not sure why this was nominated again. There are about 50 references in Hewiki. This means that the subject has been well-covered. There is also legislation to mitigate this denial. The Enwiki article relies heavily on one reference but WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Objecting also to the proposed content drift, suggested above. gidonb (talk) 01:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ami Dar

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Can't find anything beyond a story in the wrap and a handbook by his organization (which has been deleted). Given the lack of an Israeli page, it seems Israeli sources are unlikely as well. One source is not enough for WP:GNG Allan Nonymous (talk) 23:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete: Might be notable, seems to be mentioned in a book: [6], but that is a tertiary source about it. Very brief mention here [7]. Oaktree b (talk) 00:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into ~~Idealist.org~~ Action Without Borders -- which he founded, leads and for which he is known -- as a an unnecessary WP:SPINOFF/WP:CONTENTFORK, per WP:ATD and WP:CHEAP. Note the huge overlap. gidonb (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jordan

Mosab Al Khateeb

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Moved from WP:AFC after decline, fails WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as notability is not established. As this has already been deleted and then declined at AfC I don’t think there’s any point in draftifying. Mccapra (talk) 11:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kuwait

Lebanon

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Oman

Omani Sindhi

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This article fails notability and verification. It is a good example of WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:OR to categorize different communities originating from Sindh, Balochistan and Gujarat as Omani Sindhi, a title which has not been used to refer to any of them in the sources used. At a glance it looks like content FORK of articles like Al-Lawatia, Jadgal people etc. Sutyarashi (talk) 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Google and Google Scholar searches for "Omani Sindhi" come up dry. Will change if someone claims that the sources that exist are offline or in non-English languages, but for now it looks like this group of people either isn't a group or is called something else. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legends League Cricket

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No evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage to pass WP:GNG. This event and all of it's (so far 2) seasons falls foul of WP:NOTINHERITED- just because some notable people played in the event, this doesn't make the event itself notable, as it's a clear GNG failure. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG, WP:OFFCRIC, and WP:EVENT. Its whole existence is based around WP:INHERITED and has no WP:LASTING. AA (talk) 16:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
matches of this league are covered by sources like ESPNcricinfo, etc. Vikas265 (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So what? Cricinfo has scorecard coverage of lots of matches, that doesn't make them notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vikas265:. Cricinfo has scorecards of early 2000s club matches, doesn't make the leagues notable. Most of what you introduce just isn't notable. AA (talk) 13:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Per the nom, this league does not meet the WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Routine match reports, statistics and coverage of individual players don't cut it for notability, and that is pretty much all I'm seeing here. Let'srun (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the main article and redirect the seasons such as 2022 Legends League Cricket Masters to Legends League Cricket. Legends League Cricket as a topic meets WP:SIGCOV - there is direct, in-depth coverage with proper bylines in Al-Jazeera ([8]), Sportstar ([9]), and Arabian Business ([10]). I'm also in favor of redirecting 2022 Legends League Cricket and 2023 Legends League Cricket to the main article (although not yet nominated). 2001:861:3B89:90D0:2DB1:3B21:F04B:1070 (talk) 20:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Funny how a random IP knows about WP:SIGCOV. I already have my suspicions that two socks are involved in these articles... AA (talk) 21:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not see the articles 2022 Legends League Cricket and 2023 Legends League Cricket posted these above. It seems too late to add them to this AFD now, but if there is consensus to delete these other articles, I will raise an AFD for those 2 as well afterwards. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestine

Whitney_Wright

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Articles for deletion/Whitney Wright

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Actor that fails to meet the notability guidelines of WP:ENT: Does not have significant roles in multiple notable productions, nor have they made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. The only reliable secondary source about the subject relates to how this pornographic actor went to Iran, posted some photos on social media, and has cause a social media controversy online. This doesn't establish notability as an entertainer, and is exclusively be tied to a single event that is largely unrelated to the subject's profession as an entertainer. Davidwbaker (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: a few years ago, a group of users has managed to create a consensus that states that pornographic entertainers are basically not notable for what they do (their awards do not count, the coverage from the industry does not count, etc.). However the torrent of coverage W. Wright received for her political opinions shows her notability as porn actress is recognised outside WP and outside industry/adult coverage. That's why I think the article could be retained. NB-Coverage is international and includes reliable media, Guardian, Al Jazeera, Euronews, Hindustan Times, and so on. Despite this being limited in time, my !vote is based on the fact that it confirms her more general notability (since PORNBIO has been "cancelled"). (Note: I am the one who DPDd the page- same nominator, as I didn't juge deletion uncontroversial). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Meets GNG with the Guardian and the AP source. Coverage in a few different news sources [11] as well. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Denial of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel

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For similar reasons as the previous nomination. The page still does not address a notable subject and therefore fails WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 00:01, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Where is the last AfD so we can compare? Oaktree b (talk) 02:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last AfD came when the article was titled at Denial of the 7 October attacks, and thus is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denial of the 7 October attacks. (I have no opinion or further comment.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh boy, I remember that one... Yes, I'm not keen on wading into that again either. Oaktree b (talk) 05:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete or merge into the parent. Quite so. It doesn't address a notable subject. The page largely revolves around and is organised based on one Washington Post piece, as broadcast loudly and proudly by its horribly unencyclopedic first sentence. "Denial" topics normally only emerge when supported by the weight of significant scholarship. What we have here is instead a collection of WP:NOTNEWS-flouting material, with one US news piece used as a washing line to string up a mixed bag of Israeli news pieces WP:COATRACK-style. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

keep but balance - It's currently skewed and opinionated, but it's a widely discussed topic that might warrant inclusion. It should possibly be expanded to include famine denial in the other direction. Denialism (and accusations of it) are closely related to misinformation, but not quite the same concept, so it doesn't fit as a section of that article to merge. MWQs (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I keep hearing about people denying that Hamas really did this or that Hamas really did that, mostly rumor-level, so my knee-jerk is that reliable sourcing for an article on this subject probably exists, either under its current subject or refocused to conspiracy theories about the 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza conflict more generally. Per MWQ, I'd be willing to vote keep if we have even one Wikipedian who volunteers to do the considerable work of making the necessary improvements. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge. Seems reliable enough sourcing. Needs some rework, its hard to read in some places in its current form. The background section should probably just be an excerpt from the original article. A lot more quotes than necessary too.

Delete - POV fork. Carrite (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of which article? gidonb (talk) 01:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I would say "merge", but the content of the article is somewhat indiscriminately written, and I don't think it really belongs anywhere. It is citing all kinds of silly stuff like "some people on Reddit said something dumb" -- #wow #whoa. In March 2024 the Israeli firm CyberWell, which uses artificial intelligence (AI) to monitor, analyze and combat antisemitism on social media sounds like it fell off the back of a press kit -- frankly, half the stuff in here sounds like that. We should not just be directly regurgitating stuff we find in PDFs on think tanks' websites about the malnarrative playbook or whatever. jp×g 🗯️ 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per GNG. Not sure why this was nominated again. There are about 50 references in Hewiki. This means that the subject has been well-covered. There is also legislation to mitigate this denial. The Enwiki article relies heavily on one reference but WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Objecting also to the proposed content drift, suggested above. gidonb (talk) 01:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic Association of Palestine

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Very obvious WP:POVFORK of Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, spends much of the article talking about the trial and the same people from a very biased POV. Not certain if there are notable differences from the HLF article User:Sawerchessread (talk) 19:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some Info:

Initial Merge Discussion

I've been trying to solicit advice about Islamic Association of Palestine and merging it into Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. I don't want to force a WP:SILENCE on this, as I assume this may be contentious and relate to WP:ARBPIA, but it seemed noone was interested in a merge discussion after a month.

Information about the trial

The IAP article is a POVFork about the same trial as the HLF, with the same individuals and facts of the trial, and the original version of the article IAP last month went really deep into various conspirary theories linking IAP to every other Muslim organization in some grand "Jihad" terrorist ring. Particularly egregiously, the support for the conspiracy theory was from a source that was attempting to debunk it. The sourcing for HistoryCommons.org is a deadlink. And a source from Matthew Levitt is used more than ten times to make up most of this article, a person from the very pro-Israeli Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and a key witness for the trial. Relying so heavily on sourcing that is intrinsically related to the trial seems like a good argument to suggest this is an article about the HLF trial and not the IAP as an organization.

Information about what the IAP

I can't seem to find anything specific about the IAP from a lot of searches that doesn't immediately reference the HLF trial, and some of the sourcing on this that seemed to talk more specifically about the IAP is from deadlinks. If the only thing notable about the IAP is the HLF trial, then the article should be just merged into the HLF trial page.

I cleaned up some of it, but there is not enough differences between the two versions I think to justify making a new article.

The HLF article makes more sense and seems more objective without having to go full "Civilization Jihad." User:Sawerchessread (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Not seeing how it's a purported POVFORK. Per sources, the Islamic Association of Palestine is a separate organization from the Holy Land Foundation, so they should not be in the same article. An editor's perception of bias is not a reason for AfD, which is determined by coverage in WP:RS. Levvitt is a scholar and reliable source. Affiliation with an organization perceived as bias does not affect whether the source is credible and a reliable source of facts. Lots of coverage in source across the ideological spectrum that clearly establishes WP:GNG:
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Significant coverage in scholarly work The Muslim Brotherhood and the West by scholar Martyn Frampton and published by Harvard University Press
[16] in scholarly work by scholars Thomas. M. Pick, Anne Speckhard, and Beatrice Jacuch. Longhornsg (talk) 23:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First article seems fine.

Second, third, fourth article is about the HLF trial.

Fifth source mentions IAP for one paragraph, and includes HLF.

6th source uses a scratch note from one Muslim Brotherhood guy that was never accepted by any other muslim brotherhood. This 1991 note became the basis for the Civilization Jihad conspiracy theory in the 2000s to 2010s.

matthew Levitt was the key witness for HLF trial, and his work is entirely about proving financial connections between groups. His writings are about the holy land 5.

i argue that if this article is mostly about the trial to convict the 5, and the IAP is not sufficiently notable by itself except in context of the trial, it should be merged (maybe keep as a subsection in HLF what it did). User:Sawerchessread (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd argue that a passing mention (one word mention) in three of these sources also suggests it is a passing reference as part of discussion for the HLF trial.

I want to find more sourcing beyond the HLF trial and its repercussions, that there is enough info besides just the HLF trial to suggest it warrants an article User:Sawerchessread (talk) 23:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That Matthew Levitt source is used 11 times throughout this article, when in the Holy Land article, his sourcing is used only once suggests a POV Fork.

A review of his work on NYTimes

"Similarly, to judge from his acknowledgements and his notes, Levitt depends heavily on analyses from the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center of the Center for Special Studies — an Israeli nongovernmental organization created "in memory of the fallen of the Israeli intelligence community" and staffed by its former employees... None of this would matter if Levitt used the center's analyses critically, but he doesn't appear to. As a result, there will be readers of this book who will see it as fronting for the Israeli intelligence establishment and its views."

Not arguing he's not academic, just biased (As is every source on Israel/palestine), and that citing him heavily about the trial and the evidence tying the defendents together in one article, and not citing heavily in another suggests a POV fork. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 23:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So add more sources. This is not what a WP:POVFORK is. Longhornsg (talk) 04:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The Islamic Association of Palestine is a different organization from the Holy Land Foundation. How is this a POV fork of the Holy Land Foundation - the article does not exclusively rely on Levitt's writings, directly cites an FBI report, and refers to a different organization from the HLF. Both were convicted of providing material support for terrorism and were proven to be fundraising arms for Hamas, alongside the Quranic Literacy Institute. All three organizations are notable as per the general notability guideline as per the sources Longhornsg provided. This article could easily be repaired by bringing in sources from the other two articles about the Holy Land Foundation case, so that the article is not largely reliant on Levitt, given possible concerns of bias. In order for something to be a POV fork, it must be on the same topic as another article. The Holy Land Foundation article is about the Holy Land Foundation, whereas this article is about the Islamic Association of Palestine.
TL;DR: No, this is not a POV fork because it simply isn't on the same topic as the Holy Land Foundation article and the Islamic Association of Palestine clearly meets WP:GNG. »PKMNLives 🖛 Talk 04:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It discusses the same trial to the same five men for 95% of the article. The suggestion to bring it into line by including sourcing from the other article would be to keep discussing the trial.

There is not enough about the organization by itself, outside of the context of the trial, and it is not notable except as part of the HLF trial. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 04:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mustafa Kardeen

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Had a brief career and seems to lack WP:SIGCOV. I found Al-Sharq, but it's just a brief transfer announcement with a quote from the player. Other than that, I could only find Lusail News, Raya and Al-Kass, all of which were just passing mentions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saudi Arabia

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Cityscape Global

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Promotional article for a company that fails WP:NCORP. Ciudatul (talk) 16:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Completely fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP; no coverage of any kind in sources other than obscure and likely unreliable tech blogs. ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: lots of in-depth coverage; easily meets WP:NCORP. See Google news (ex: [17][18][19][20][21][22] etc.). It might need a bit of cleanup but deletion is certainly not warranted. I don't think the nominator did a WP:BEFORE. C F A 💬 20:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source 8 is too buggy to open without registering, 9 appears to be a trade journal (not a RS), 10 is a brief PR item, as is 11. 12 is fine I suppose. 13 is a staff report about an award given out, somewhat related. Most of these are not terribly helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 22:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Most coverage of this conference/trade show is in PR items, talking about the show. I don't see much beyond lists of awards or PRish news items. Oaktree b (talk) 22:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riyadh School of Tourism and Hospitality

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Stub about a proposed future institute based entirely on PR. I don’t think this organisation is yet notable. Mccapra (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keemokazi

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Nothing here to meet WP:GNG. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Franco Pillarella

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. He gets a mere 3 google news hits and article is unreferenced. His involvement with Maher Arar can be covered in that article. The 2 CBC news articles quoted at end are dead. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turkey

Bosphorus Development

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Promotional article for a company that fails WP:NCORP. All sources are WP:ORGTRIV (routine coverage of market entries, financing, awards, etc.), WP:PRIMARYSOURCES (interviews, self-published materials), or otherwise unreliable sources. WP:BEFORE search turned up nothing validating notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 18:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yabani

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I am not sure but want a definitive consensus on the notability of this TV series. First off, the article doesn't meet our guideline per WP:NFP–there is totally a decline of SIGCOV, or maybe because I didn't find either, but I tried searching only to see release dates announcements, etc, and thus, doesn't satisfy WP:SIRS.

On another note, I found out that the additional criteria WP:NFO, and WP:NFIC may push for the userfication, given thoughts that it may still meet notability at the highest release (seems like it has been released), and because it started notable actors and actresses. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Added a few things for verification; a lot of so-so coverage exists (in Turkish, English) and, although not great, it seems to show some attention to the production. Notable cast. A redirect to producer/network is imv warranted, so very opposed to deletion.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Turkish hostage crisis

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WP:NOTNEWS, news story briefly covered by local media. Ecrusized (talk) 11:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Israel–Hamas war protests: WP:NOTNEWS but may be shortly mentioned in this article with a greater focus. The content in Israel–Hamas war protests#Turkey may be split to form Israel–Hamas war protests in Turkey. No prejudice to deletion. Aintabli (talk) 08:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not meet notability in any way, and we are not a news outlet, although I won’t oppose a very selective merge. Bearian (talk) 00:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Islamokemalism

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Fringe term only cited by a few Turkish news reports. Uncertain whether such an ideology exists or whether it is term coined by a few news websites. Ecrusized (talk) 00:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sure, the former state ideology is just “a term coined by a few news websites”. Have it your way. You are on a rampage of nominating my Turkish topic articles for deletion after making the bold accusation that I am “trying to make the Turkish government look bad”. Engaging you is not worth my time as you make it clear from your statements that you are too emotional. I won’t participate in the discussions, whatever the admins decide I’ll take it and won’t argue. Next time you go on another nomination spree, let me know. I had no idea until I did my routine article check. Ilamxan (talk) 18:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The article title can be discussed, but the article should kept, unless there is a good merge proposal. The references in the article include mainstream news outlets or notable columnists, all discussing a coherent theme around the marriage of Kemalist and Islamist ideologies.

TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I believe the article does make a decent case and cites a couple of mainstream sources. I think it is notable enough. Brat Forelli🦊 22:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I can't say that this is as established in the sources as major ideologies are, but there seems to be plenty of discussion (significant coverage) of it. It should be noted that searching Islamokemalism returns a few publications, but looking for different combinations of the Turkish form helps rack up more sources. See [23][24][25] and so on. Aintabli (talk) 07:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Turks in Germany. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almancı

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Possible Wiki dictionary item, the term itself is brief enough to be merged with Turks in Germany. Ecrusized (talk) 00:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Turks in Germany: WP:NOTDICT Aintabli (talk) 07:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to LGBT rights in Kurdistan. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newroz clashes (2023)

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WP:NOTNEWS, local event only covered by Turkish media sources. Ecrusized (talk) 01:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge some of it to LGBT rights in Kurdistan (where it is mentioned briefly, needing some elaboration). No standalone notability. Geschichte (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Beyoğlu protests

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WP:NOTNEWS, non Wiki worthy news event only covered by Turkish media. Creator has a history of pro-Kurdish agenda editing and creation of articles generally negative of Turkey, and Turkish government. Ecrusized (talk) 22:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Israel–Hamas war protests: No lasting coverage. Aintabli (talk) 09:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One additional idea: This and the other related article could be merged to form Israel–Hamas war protests in Turkey. Aintabli (talk) 09:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This actually seems reasonable. Ilamxan (talk) 11:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment my original vote was to merge this page into an existing page. If no new pages may be created as the result of an AfD discussion, the additional idea may just be taken as a future note. Aintabli (talk) 07:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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United Arab Emirates

TRENDS Research & Advisory

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Not notable. Un assiolo (talk) 21:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Un assiolo, do you have any policy-based evidence to support your claim? Just saying "not notable" is not very helpful. C F A 💬 21:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Seriously? This is a borderline A7. The sources are all press releases, a LinkedIn (which I have now removed), the company website, and a few company profiles (on websites that collect them indiscriminately). Adding something along the lines of the three sentences suggested at WP:JN would not, in my opinion, add anything of substance to the nomination. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arcadia Global School

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Likely this article doesn't meet WP:GNG. Though per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOME, schools are presumed notable, but here, I question its notability. It's a pure case of WP:TOOSOON. Welp, a redirect to the founder, Mohan G. Valrani may be good for WP:ATD. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rizwan Sajan

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fails GNG in the sense that the sourcing presented is either not indepdenent or not significant coverage. Indication of COI. See previous account creators are blocked. CresiaBilli (talk) 08:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This article seems to pop up every six months... Still not notable, with nothing found in RS. What's used now for sourcing are still in un-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, falls below all relevant notability requirement. The only credible source I could find is Forbes India other than that all other sources are either interview or primary sources. Ednabrenze (talk) 19:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Seems like this subject just can't muster enough reliable sources, maybe it's time to say goodbye to this article. Waqar💬 18:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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