Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zsófia von Habsburg

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 14:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Zsófia von Habsburg

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Zsófia von Habsburg is not notable. WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:BLPFAMILY - relationships do not confer notability. D1551D3N7 (talk) 13:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• DeleteTextbook example of complete lack of real notability.TheLongTone (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Royalty and nobility, Austria, and Hungary. Shellwood (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: It would be good if someone mentioned why the article's ten sources aren't sufficient to establish notability. I can see that at least one of them is a blog and this likely unsuitable, but just stating "Not notable" isn't helpful. Cortador (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  It's not helpful for you to simply state "they are notable". There's more to notability than to be mentioned in a news article you know. I believe they don't pass WP:GNG, it should be easy for you to demonstrate they do if they do.

  • First source is femcafe.hu
    https://www.femcafe.hu/cikkek/sztarok/iv-karoly-utolso-magyar-kiraly-dedunokaja-habsburg-zsofia-hercegno-22-eves-fotok
    It's not significant coverage, practically a genealogical entry rather than an article.
  • https://index.hu/fomo/2022/08/10/habsburg-zsofia-ildiko-interju-soskut//
    Mostly a puff piece and nothing really to establish notability independent of their grandfather,
  • Sources for her as an equestrian
    https://www.fei.org/athlete/10087039/HABSBURG-LOTHRINGEN-Zsofia
    https://livejumping.com/ap/event/275/rider/13641
    Her performance in equestrian is not of any huge encyclopedic significance.
  • https://nlc.hu/szabadido/20220717/habsburg-zsofia-es-ildiko/
    An interview with them mostly as Otto's grandchildren than as noteworthy people independent of their family ties.
    Oh they even say in the article "We are a completely average family".
  • https://monarchy.blog.hu/2022/11/28/bal_magyar_hercegnovel
    Monarchy blog post about some fancy dress ball. Attendance at a ball is hardly grounds for notability.
  • https://www.journaldesfemmes.fr/people/actus/2868135-bal-des-debutantes-2022-photos-soiree/2868153-l-archiduchesse-sophia-de-habsbourg-lorraine-et-le-prince-leopold-de-baden
    A photo from the ball not significant coverage.
  • https://histoiresroyales.fr/archiduchesse-sophia-de-habsbourg-cavalier-prince-leopold-de-bade-bal-des-debutantes-2022/
    Another monarchy fansite post about attendance at a ball.
  • https://index.hu/fomo/2022/12/07/parizs-debutansbal-habsburg-zsofia-hercegno-arisztokracia/
    A third article about the ball.

  D1551D3N7 (talk) 21:36, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  You will be pleased to hear that I didn't declare this person notable. That's just something you made up. Cortador (talk) 20:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Not notable enough. No WP:SIGCOV to prove the subject’s own notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 07:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and the two related nominations. None of the sources demonstrate notability; this is a rich (but unremarkable) 20-year-old whose hobbies include horse-riding and attending parties. There is nothing else here. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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