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Changing to a username that is taken but is most definitely not taken

I'm trying to remove the exclamation point from my username, but it appears that "Panini" is already in use. By who? There is no User:Panini, and I couldn't find anything on MediaWiki either. What's the issue? Or is there somewhere else I should be asking this question? Panini!🥪 14:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Panini!: usernames are global across all WMF projects, there is a user: w:es:Especial:Contribuciones/Panini from eswiki. — xaosflux Talk 14:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Xaosflux, ah! I see. Follow-up; would this qualify for an usurpation of some sort? Does this user qualify for the "significant edits and log" actions despite having last edited in 2013? Panini!🥪 14:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
@Panini!: it is borderline, they have edits - but no "content" edits on eswiki. I would not process it under the usurpation process we might handle here on the English Wikipedia, as it has non-trivial edits on another project, but it might get honored via meta:Steward requests/Username changes. — xaosflux Talk 14:43, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
I got a similar problem. I want to remove the "(1)", but when I made my account, it was to similar to "lionmaster", "lion master", and "LIONMASTER", so I added the (1). Is it possible to remove it? (Unrealated, 25 January is my birthday, when this comment was made! Lol!) L10nM4st3r (1) (talk) 15:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
@L10nM4st3r (1): in your case it is possible, and as none of those near-collision names have any significant edits, it is probable. You may request a name change here: Special:GlobalRenameRequest. — xaosflux Talk 16:40, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't have an email adress, so I made a request at this site instead. Thanks for your help :)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by L10nM4st3r (1) (talk • contribs) 17:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
-Edit: Oops... I forgot to sign... L10nM4st3r (1) (talk) 19:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the help! I am now renamed! L10nM4st3r (talk) 08:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Time bugged

Hello! I have my preferences set to use my local timezone, however it appears this is somehow messing up the displayed time in the message at WP:CHUU as it says (At the time of typing this) "It is currently 16:1:11 pm, Tomorrow (UTC−5)". Why on earth would it display "Tomorrow" instead of the date? And what on earth is "16:1:11 pm"? First, there's nothing that goes past 12 when using AM/PM, it goes back to 1. Second, there's only 1 number after the 16, when there should be 2. Anyone know what's causing this to get screwed up? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:NAMECHANGE" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wikipedia:NAMECHANGE and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 30#Wikipedia:NAMECHANGE until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. QueenofBithynia (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Total edits?

Pretty sure I already know the answer on this, but is there an upper limit on the number of edits that an account can have in order to be usurped, or is it just "none?" Is there any mechanism for usurping a username on an account that has not edited or been active for 10 years, if they had 1000+ edits, most of which were back in 2003-2004? It looks like the answer is no, but just wondering if I'm missing anything here. 164.68.140.234 (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Is there really no way to usurp a name registered on another Lang.wp

I would like to usurp the name "JMF". It was registered on fr.wikipedia in 2005, did four edits, then disappeared. Is it sterilised for ever?

What if I activated utilisateur:John Maynard Friedman on fr.wiki and requested usurpation there? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

@John Maynard Friedman this isn't something the English Wikipedia team would have any say in, see meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes#Requests_involving_merges.2C_usurps_or_other_complications. It may possibly be accepted as there are not any "content" edits. — xaosflux Talk 19:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Remove "If you own the global account, please ensure you have included a confirmation link" from bot message at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations

This seems to be a vestige of pre-SUL finalization and has no continuing reason to exist. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Ping Anomie. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 15:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Pppery posted the same thing to AnomieBOT's talk page, but I asked if anyone who actually participates in the usurpation process has discussed it. I don't know if the line is really useless, or if it still matters for cases like the third bullet at Wikipedia:Changing username/Guidelines#When usurping is probably appropriate. Anomie⚔ 22:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
@Anomie: I can chime in, as I've done usurpations here before. The message is a relic of the days before SUL finalisation (and in fact even predates the global rename tool, if I remember correctly). A user who owned the SUL for a username would have the claim to that username on every Wikimedia project; however, if there were existing local usernames, those wouldn't be attached to the SUL, and the user with the SUL wouldn't be able to log in with their SUL on that project. If the user with the SUL knew the password for those local usernames, they could attach it to their SUL, and no further process was needed. However, if the user didn't know the password (because the username was created by someone else), they could still make a case to have it usurped by local bureaucrats so they could claim it. We therefore had a process for handling SUL conflicts. This would typically involve the following:
  1. The owner of the SUL would make an edit to another project with one of their attached accounts to confirm it was them making the usurpation request.
  2. The owner would file an usurpation request on the English Wikipedia while logged out, and add the link to their confirmation edit to the request.
  3. A bureaucrat would usurp the conflicting local username so the owner of the SUL could create a local account on the English Wikipedia and attach it to their SUL.
This process is no longer relevant—since SUL finalisation, there are no more unattached local accounts and no more conflicting usernames. Whenever a user is renamed, the global rename tool will automatically rename all local accounts. The local rename tool (which only renamed local accounts and would break the link to the SUL) is no longer available to bureaucrats, and is only used by stewards in special circumstances. As such, there isn't a case anymore where a user would ever need to file an usurpation request while logged out or make a confirmation edit on another project.
As for the bit about "Both accounts are owned by the same person", that's for something different. If the requesting user is trying to usurp one of their own accounts on the English Wikipedia, that message will never appear, since a local account exists; and if the requesting user is trying to usurp an account that doesn't have a local account on the English Wikipedia, their request cannot be processed at WP:CHUU anyways, and must go to Meta. In either case, we may ask the requesting user to log in to the target account and make a confirmation edit so we know it's them. This is mostly to speed the process up so we can approve the request immediately. If the requesting user can't log in to the target account to make the edit, we have to treat it as if they don't own the account, and must go through the process of notifying the target user and waiting. I cannot recall any recent cases where a user who requested to usurp a SUL that didn't have a local account on the English Wikipedia ever claimed to own that account. In most cases, they probably searched for the username on Special:ListUsers (which doesn't show global usernames), thought it was available, and then made their request, when they should've searched on Special:CentralAuth. The message about making a confirmation edit doesn't apply to them and has caused confusion in the past, so it should be removed. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 02:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
@K6ka: If the requesting user is trying to usurp one of their own accounts on the English Wikipedia, that message will never appear, since a local account exists Which message, the bot's message? I see it at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations/Completed/55#Barsik.International → Fuzzy_Barsik and Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations/Completed/54#Notacoworcat → 56independent for example, and in both cases it seems to me that it was relevant. Anomie⚔ 11:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
@Anomie: Those two cases are interesting; I would've expected those requests to have been made at Meta instead (since their home wikis aren't English Wikipedia). After SUL finalisation, the consensus was that only target usernames whose home wikis were the English Wikipedia could be processed here, with all other requests going to Meta. However, if both accounts belong to the same user and the user can demonstrate their ownership, most of the bureaucracy can be skipped.
A better solution might be to update the instructions on WP:CHUU for what to do if both accounts belong to the requesting user, since a good chunk of the usurpation process (target accounts having significant edits, notifying the target user, waiting for a week, etc.) can be ignored if the requesting user can prove they own both accounts. A different template could be used so the bot will handle it differently; checks for contributions, having an email address, being notified, and having accounts on other projects can be skipped. Maybe another renamer might want to chime in with their thoughts? —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 15:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
It seems clear no other renamers are opining. Can this be done please? * Pppery * it has begun... 18:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Given that the one who did opine seems to find it ok to apply WP:NOTBURO if the user requesting rename can demonstrate ownership of the target account, no, I don't think I'll do this. I will update the text to request that the requestor use the target account to comment here rather than the someone vague "confirmation link" language though. If people do want to start enforcing the "must have enwiki as the home wiki" rule, I'd expect the |sul-primary= I added to the bot's invocations of {{CUU}} back in 2017 to start being used, at which point I can have the bot just generate that as normal instead of handling "exists but not locally" with a special message. Anomie⚔ 11:56, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Deprecating Wikipedia:Changing username

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Deprecating Wikipedia:Changing username. HouseBlastertalk 02:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

username changing while other username is in queue

How do I change my username while another username is in queue? in the event of someone [me] to accidentally use an uppercase letter instead of a lowercase letter in their username change request, how do I change that uppercase letter to a lowercase letter while the original username change request is still in queue? The non-binary pancake (talk) 12:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I cancelled your request, you can submit a new one. — xaosflux Talk 12:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
þank you very much. The non-binary pancake (talk) 15:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
by þe way, why cant people have a lowercase letter as þe first letter of þere username? The non-binary pancake (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
short answer: the software doesn't support it, and with usernames being global any change would impact hundreds of projects. Feel free to use a lowercase letter in your signature. — xaosflux Talk 19:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Is þere any way to use an invisible character as þe first letter so þat it looks like I do have a lowercase as þe first letter of my username?
(wiþout breaking any of þe rules of course) The non-binary pancake (talk) 21:50, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
@The non-binary pancake ; Wikipedia:Username policy calls out the English Wikipedia username policy. Renames are also somewhat at the discretion of the global renamer that would handle the request. In general, especially with your contributions being here on the English Wikipedia, it is highly suggested that your username make use of characters that are easy for your fellow editors to input (characters from a standard English keyboard layout), and that most certainly would not include invisible characters. What you are welcome to do is to use a lowercase latin alphabet letter on your signature (e.g. the non-binary pancake as it will take advantage of the automatic upcasing. You can also style your signature with a nickname, so long as it links to your actual username. Also, you can style the display on your userpage with the the DISPLAYTITLE template to make the first character appear in lower case. — xaosflux Talk 22:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
ok, I'll do þat. sorry for þe inconvenience. The non-binary pancake (talk) 09:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Added line break by accident

I added a line break in my username change request. This seems to have ruined the form, something I must apologise for. If it is required to solve the issue, please cancel the request. Sorry for the inconvenience I have been for the past three days. ─ Volpilh 🦊 17:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Reverting username change

I am currently trying to revert my username back to a previous one, after having made some discoveries about the written standards of the language which it is written in (Occitan, with issues relating to the Mistralian norm and the classical norm. Cyberbot I does not seem to respond normally to this request, so I wonder if it would be more appropriate to request a username usurp, given that the username I wish to change to -- my previous username -- still exists as an automatic redirect to my current userpage.

I feel like I might have overcomplicated this entire process, and I am really sorry for that. Currently I am at a loss of what to do. What would the appropriate process be, for me to change back to a previous username? ─ Volpilh 🦊 00:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Username

Hello can I change my username please? דולב חולב (talk) 02:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@דולב חולב, If you’d like to change your username, go ahead and make a request. Simply read through Wikipedia:Changing username and follow the instructions outlined in the article. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:14, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 16 March 2024

Create account 24.45.181.20 (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Wrong venue. See Wikipedia:Why create an account? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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