Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Pé de Chinelo

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• Pé de Chinelo (talk · contribs · logs)

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Statement of the dispute

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Desired outcome

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That Pé de Chinelo be sternly advised not to remove references from articles, push a certain POV, or engage in persistent edit warring and/or misrepresentation of facts, upon threat of a block or possible topic ban if continued.

Description

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Pé de Chinelo has gone around numerous video game articles changing their genres and edit warring on them if changed back, which includes changing infoboxes and adding/removing categories. User also seems to be POV-pushing, arguing that, despite the verifiable sources that exist, that Tekken 3 is the highest-selling fighting-style video game of all time (which is supposed to be Super Smash Bros. Brawl, claiming that the latter is not a fighting-style video game. User has done the same regarding the highest-selling Role playing game of all time, replacing Pokémon Red and Blue with Final Fantasy VII on the grounds that Pokémon is not a role playing game.

Pé de Chinelo has also recently engaged in similar edit warring over other articles, including the (ethnic) races of Shakira, and the genres if the movies Pulp Fiction, The Godfather Part III, Léon, etc.

Evidence of disputed behavior

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1. Uncivil communication with other editors:
   1. Evidence of threatening to report a user to the "moderators": [1]
   2. Evidence of accusing users of sockpuppetry: [2]
   3. Labelling users as racists for discussing the semantics of races: [3], [4], [5], [6]
2. Changing genres of articles with genres established per verifiable sources and consensus:
   1. List of best-selling video games: [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21]
   2. Shakira: [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]
   3. The Dark Knight (film): [32], [33], [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], [41]
   4. Body of Lies: [42], [43],
   5. Heat (film): [44], [45]
   6. Leon (film): [46]
   7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl: [47], [48], [49], [50], [51], [52], [53], [54]
   8. Super Smash Bros. Melee: [55]
   9. Super Smash Bros.: [56]
   10. Super Smash Bros. (series): [57]
   11. Brawl: [58]
   12. Melee (disambiguation): [59]
   13. Punisher: War Zone change to superhero film: [60]
   14. Prison Break: [61]
   15. Jurassic Park (film): [62], [63]
   16. Batman Begins: [64]
   17. Casablanca (film): [65]
3. POV-pushing: [66], [67], [68], [69]
4. Edit-warring: [70], [71], [72], [73], [74]
5. Page-move vandalism: [75], [76], [77], [78]
6. Vandalism on United States: [79]

Applicable policies and guidelines

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1. WP:EDITWAR
2. WP:CIVIL
3. WP:NPOV
4. WP:VAND

Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute

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1. Talk page resolution:
   1. A Level 2 warning for vandalism on Body of Lies (film) by User:NawlinWiki: [80]
   2. Attempt by User:ReyBrujo to advise user on not changing material without discussion: [81]
   3. Similar attempts as above by User:Chocobogamer: [82], [83], [84]
   4. Similar attempt as above by User:GamerPro64: [85]
2. Attempt at resolution at ANI (as reported by Chocobogamer): [86]
3. Attempt at resolution at AN (as reported by Chocobogamer): [87], [88]
4. An indefinite block placed until respondent can explain actions at this RfC. [89], [90]

Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute

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1. Continuance (or intent thereof) to alter the genres after talk page discussion regarding List of best-selling video games: [91], [92], [93], [94], [95], [96], [97]
2. Moving to edit (to the point of edit-warring) the race of Shakira after failing to achieve desired result at Talk:White Latin American (note: user attempted to start a discussion at Talk:Shakira but reverted his own post to start discussion, in which then the edit warring ensued): [98], [99], [100], [101], [102], [103], [104], [105], [106]
3. Continuing editing the race of Shakira, even after this RfC had been opened: [107]
4. Continuing to argue (1 week after the opening of the RfC and refusing to comment so far) the genre of Smash Bros, using a discussion on GameFAQs (non-reliable) as his source. [108]
5. Removing unneccesarily, the more-than-accepted gaming terms "survival horror" and "stealth" and replacing them with the more ambiguous terms "horror" and "thriller" respectively, almost 3 weeks after the start of the RfC [109]
6. Claiming that because it doesn't use 'up' as its jump button, SSBB is not a fighter (even though DOA doesn't either) [110]
7. Undeniable proof of POV-pushing for Tekken 3 as the best-selling video game [111]
8. Racism and POV-pushing [112]
9. Continuing edit-warring after the RfC on The Dark Knight (film) despite the term crime drama defining a completely different film format [113]
10. Engaging in vandalism 2 weeks after the RfC's initiation: [[114]]

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

1. MuZemike (talk) 03:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
2. chocobogamer LOOK AT WHAT I DID 10:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
3. GamerPro64 (talk) 17:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

1. Zomic13 (talk) 18:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
2. --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
3. --Enric Naval (talk) 01:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
4. --Silver Edge (talk) 09:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
5. --Rhonin the wizard (talk) 12:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
6. --Someoneanother 21:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
7. --OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
8. Tim (Xevious) (talk) 19:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

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Summary

As the user has been indefinitely blocked for exhausting the community's patience and has not replied on his talk page to an invitation to contribute here, there is nothing further to comment about. Stifle (talk) 10:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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