Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User imploding vandals

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User imploding vandals

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Per WP:DENY. This template (and similar ones) only amuses vandals and glorifies their acts. wikinights talk 22:07, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If this MfD is successful, I will batch nominate other userboxes that glorify vandalism. wikinights talk 22:09, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, for now, at least. It is not clear that this “only amuses vandals and glorifies their acts”. It looks like a userbox used by a vandal fighter. It is not offensive. It has many transclusions, have you considered notifying all transcluders? I recommend that you look at developing userbox policy, as opposed to trying to set policy by mfd precedent. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:45, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The language and design portray vandalism as something that needs to be "obliterated" with a "kaboom!!". Vandals do indeed want to be obliterated gloriously with a kaboom. It is the userbox equivalent of posting "I will obliterate you, vandal!" on the talk page of a vandal account or IP. We should avoid language against vandals in fact encourages them and glorifies their acts; WP:Do not insult the vandals represents a widely believed opinion. Wikipedia:User pages affirms that pages that seem to advocate, encourage, or condone ... vandalism are unacceptable. If users want to write that they revert vandalism on their userpages, there are alternative userboxes. wikinights talk 00:15, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your concern would be valid if that vandal's user page were tagged with the message. It is not. SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:58, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as it's a humorous userbox used by vandal-fighters, certainly not what pages that seem to advocate, encourage, or condone ... vandalism is referring to, that being bona fide avocation/encouragement of vandalism, as opposed to anything that could be potentially be construed as provoking vandals, while WP:DENY is about making vandals infamous, not this. — csc-1 00:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I question the basic premise of this nomination which suggests that this sort of userbox encourages and glorifies vandalism, and I am not convinced by the supporting argument. This to me reads as a humorous badge worn by a vandal-fighter, of which Wikipedia needs many. If the userbox perhaps read "Come at me, vandals, do your worst!" that would be one thing, but this is not in the same category. --WaltCip-(talk) 12:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - As a recent changes patroller I keep this on my userpage, I found it a humorous way to let others know that I revert vandalism. I don't know how this glorifies or encourages vandalism. (JayPlaysStuff | talk to me | What I've been up to) 18:34, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It's humorous, and to the extent that it has any effect on vandalism, it will discourage it. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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