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File:Con2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Con2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by XCoNx (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kit shorts chi10a.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kit shorts chi10a.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nastictarragona (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

OR, likely obsolete to Commons version (commons:File:Kit shorts chi10a.png) Magog the Ogre (t • c) 04:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:FEURSJ.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:FEURSJ.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Feuruss (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic; appears to relate to a non-notable conlang of the editor’s invention.

File:FERUSS2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Feuruss (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 09:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Thilakan during early days in Theatre.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Thilakan during early days in Theatre.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Haribhagirath (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Tagged as {{subst:rfu}} with a reference to File:Thilakan.JPG, but the tag was removed. This is indeed replaceable with the indicated file. Stefan2 (talk) 11:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC) Hi Stefan. Please get the file reviewed by a person from Kerala and since the image is one of the few remaining images of the person from his theatre days. (Haribhagirath (talk) 17:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC))[reply]

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File:Paradise Edition of Born to Die by Lana Del Rey.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Paradise Edition of Born to Die by Lana Del Rey.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Thevampireashlee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive use of non-free images, see File:BornToDieAlbumCover.png. Stefan2 (talk) 13:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:KylieFlowerMusicVideo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:KylieFlowerMusicVideo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hotwiki (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not discussed critically. Stefan2 (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

umm, it is related to the music video section. Why don't you leave me alone and stop tagging all the pictures that I uploaded. Its annoying. Instead of deleting pictures that could help improve the articles, why don't you just help improving the articles? --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The music video is mentioned in the article, yes. This screenshot isn't mentioned, though. Besides, the screenshot tells absolutely nothing about the music video. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Did you even read the music section? It says "Directed by Kylie Minogue herself, the music video was filmed in black and white. It featured Minogue lying on a lounge with only a towel covering her while looking through a mirror, wondering through woods and fields, walking along a tree trunk, playing on a swing, lying and sitting in a meadow of flowerItalic texts and lying in a pool. Minogue wore a long, sheer white dress for the music video."

The description of the picture says " Minogue in a music video scene, sitting in a meadow of flowers."

The screenshot is mentioned in the music video section! --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is zero discussion of this image in the article. However, the text you quoted ("sitting in a meadow of flower") provides an adequate replacement of the image, proving that the image is replaceable fair use and thus violating WP:NFCC#1. The image caption helps understanding the image, but WP:NFCC#8 works the other way around: the image should help understanding the text. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the image should be kept as it illustrates the feel and overarching theme of the video. Technically it can be replaced but so can every other music video screen shot. Let's go through the ritual... (talk) 01:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But non-free files can't be used only because it "illustrates the feel and overarching theme of the video". You have to show that removal of the image would be detrimental to the understanding of the article (see WP:NFCC#8). In this case, removal of the image wouldn't affect the understanding of the article at all. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:31, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Under what rationale? --Stefan2 (talk) 13:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To illustrate a scene in the music video section of "Flower".--SuperHotWiki (talk) 00:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Chris Brown Beautiful People Music Video.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chris Brown Beautiful People Music Video.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Johnnyboytoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not discussed critically. Replaceable by text. Stefan2 (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I really have nothing to say about it. 90% of the images I upload to enrich wikipedia end up getting some kind of notice or being delete, so whatever. Johnnyboytoy (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - its necessary for the article --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it necessary for the article? It is easily replaceable by text: "A man is standing in front of a wall with some graffiti on each side of him." The image fails WP:NFCC#1, and since removal of the image doesn't affect the understanding of the article, it also fails WP:NFCC#8. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:DumboFlyingElephantDisneylandPoster.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:DumboFlyingElephantDisneylandPoster.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PorkyPigSuperstar (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Violates WP:NFG. Not discussed critically. Stefan2 (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hamdani.mohammad.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hamdani.mohammad.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Duiarmia (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Sourced to CNN, a commercial news company. See WP:NFC#UUI §7. Stefan2 (talk) 13:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The item §7 you referred to says,
"A photo from a press or photo agency (e.g., AP, Corbis or Getty Images), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article."
CNN is a commercial news company but doesn't appear to be a press or photo agency when comparing it with the three examples and looking at the definition at Press agency and news agency. So item §7 apparently doesn't apply to CNN.
Anyhow, the current image that was uploaded yesterday was not sourced from CNN. See the source url of the recent upload in the File history at comment section of the current version, i.e. http://names.911memorial.org/#lang=en_US&page=person&id=4946 .
BTW, I just noticed that the same picture (uncropped) is on the Facebook page of the deceased Hamdani, if that's of any relevance.
Please note that I'm new to uploading so I don't have much experience about these issues and I could use any advice that you may care to offer. Thanks. --Bob K31416 (talk) 00:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't notice that the source indicated in the source field didn't refer to the current version of the file, but isn't it just the same image with a different level of distortion? --Stefan2 (talk) 12:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like that to me. Also, it looks like CNN and the 9/11 site both got the image from Hamdani's Facebook page by cropping the image there, as I alluded to in my previous message, and for some reason CNN's was distorted and the 9/11 website's wasn't. So the current version of the image used in Wikipedia is the one that was obtained from the 9/11 website. --Bob K31416 (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so CNN isn't the original source. How did Facebook get the image? The man died three years before Facebook was founded, so he obviously didn't put the photo there himself. Is Facebook really enough to satisfy WP:NFCC#4 and WP:NFCC#10a? --Stefan2 (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NFCC#4 says,
" Previous publication. Non-free content must have been published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia."
Whether or not it is non-free content, it has been publicly displayed at each of the three sources previously mentioned before it was uploaded to Wikipedia yesterday. So the image complies with this section 4.
And WP:NFCC#10a says,
"Identification of the source of the material, supplemented, where possible, with information about the artist, publisher and copyright holder; this is to help determine the material's potential market value. See: Wikipedia:Citing sources#Multimedia."
Supplementing with that info isn't reasonably possible since it isn't given with the image that appears at any of the three sources. Also, it doesn't look like there is any potential market value for the image, which is the main consideration of the policy. So the image complies with this section 10a.
Of the three images, CNN, 9/11 website, and the more complete one on Facebook, my preference is to use the one from Facebook.[1] Would that be OK?
In any case, it looks like the current image in Wikipedia satisfies the points that you have mentioned so far and shouldn't be deleted. --Bob K31416 (talk) 14:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Well, probably. I find the photo in lots of newspaper articles everywhere on the Internet. However, not a single newspaper credits the photo to a commercial photo agency (the only source I found at all was the word "handout" in one newspaper), which suggests that the image is fine. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. --Bob K31416 (talk) 15:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — Per the result of the above discussion. --Bob K31416 (talk) 17:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:The Berlin Wall - Arcade flyer.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete the Game Gear one. It was on its last day of an orphan waiting period, and thus had been nominated for deletion for nearly the entire time that this ran, and so, in an invocation of WP:IAR, I went ahead and zapped the Game Gear image as the result of this FFD. You're welcome. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:14, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Berlin Wall - Arcade flyer.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hydao (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive use of non-free files. There is already another image: File:The Berlin Wall.jpg. Alternatively, delete the other one. Stefan2 (talk) 14:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, the Game Gear one should be deleted. --Hydao (talk) 14:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and delete the Game Gear cover. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Cup-300x225.gif

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deletion as copyright violation. The source page states explicitely: Kent Cricket Board Shepway District © MMXI. And since this was a public event there's a chance that replaceable images exist which have been or may be released under a free license. De728631 (talk) 22:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Cup-300x225.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Py0alb (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Blatant copyright violation.[2] No chance of meeting WP:NFCC, but the uploader keeps deleting the F9 template. Stefan2 (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


It's not "blatant" at all. In fact it meets all 10 of the NFCC criteria. Stefan2 has so far been singularly unable to come up with a coherent reason why this shouldn't be considered fair use. Its the only image available, and it greatly improves the reader's understanding of the page, and the origin of the image is clearly marked.

I made a request to Stefan2 to assist me in correctly documenting the licensing and fair use request, but this has been refused.

Py0alb (talk) 15:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I will also add that I only stated I was only temporarily removing the speedy deletion request because the nominator was refusing to engage in an attempt to reach consensus on the talk page. His antagonistic and confrontational attitude is not befitting of a wikipedian.

Py0alb (talk) 15:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't see why it should be deleted. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Asda.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Asda.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chrisloader (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused fair use image. Been replaced with vector. JetBlast (talk) 18:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BornToDieParadise.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:BornToDieParadise.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Aaa16 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC#3a: there is already a different cover in the article. Stefan2 (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The criterion you mention is valid "if one item can convey equivalent significant information". Since there are two different versions of the album with different covers and tracklists, the primary visual identification is not significantly conveyed by one image alone. De728631 (talk) 22:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The cover is way too different compare to the standard edition. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • It does not matter if the other edition looks different to this one. If the alternative cover isn't discussed critically, it fails WP:NFCC#8. Removal of one of the two images doesn't affect your understanding of the article about the music album. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Just like we don't upload an image depicting the cover of a new edition or reissue of a book, there's no need to upload an image of every reissue or alternate album cover, unless the new cover is subject to critical commentary from secondary reliable sources. — ξxplicit 02:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:BBC Wales corporate.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:BBC Wales corporate.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mc95 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused Fair Use JetBlast (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:COMMAND PILOT WINGS 2.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:COMMAND PILOT WINGS 2.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dandvsp (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

LQ, OR, superseded by File:COMMAND PILOT WINGS.png Magog the Ogre (t • c) 19:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Move to commons this is a photo, the other is a diagram -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: image licencing decidedly odd. Photograph would have a separate copyright requirement, and there's no indication that's met. It's given as CC-BY-SA presumably, but it's a very small size for a typical photograph by an uploader. Since he or she will have been notified, I would be interested in confirming this and making it clearer. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Childhood.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Childhood.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jfreyre (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Collection of multiple orphaned user photos. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 21:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Gee.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gee.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Howard Gee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 22:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Terry Thompson Zanesville Resident.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Terry Thompson Zanesville Resident.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dpm12 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC#8: you don't need to know what he looked like in order to know that he released animals. Stefan2 (talk) 23:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and delete. Lord knows I need to get in more trouble on here. Just trying to be a good Wikipedian is all -- Dpm12, 26 September 2012 7:28 (PDT)

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File:NWASixManTagChampBelt.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:NWASixManTagChampBelt.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cg2916 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC#8: you don't need a picture of the belt in order to understand the article about the competition. Stefan2 (talk) 23:28, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The Marshall Mathers LP Limited Edition.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Marshall Mathers LP Limited Edition.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by L-Burna (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive use of non-free files. There is already another cover: File:The Marshall Mathers LP.jpg Stefan2 (talk) 23:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The Marshall Mathers LP (alternate).jpg

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 21:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Marshall Mathers LP (alternate).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Daniil Maslyuk (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive use of non-free files. There is already another cover: File:The Marshall Mathers LP.jpg Stefan2 (talk) 23:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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