Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young Peculiar
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:57, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BAND. PROD contested on the grounds of passing criteria 7 and 12 of WP:NMUSIC, with the reasoning "having a set on a C4 (Channel 4) channel is a claim to pass WP:NMUSIC as well as being the best in their genre within their regional locality", but I believe both of those reasons are incorrect, as I will explain.
Firstly, the reason for passing criterion 12 is being featured playing two songs on Project4.tv. However, although Project4.tv was set up and supported by 4Music, it's not a national TV station. The band's two songs are archived here [1] and Project4.tv's home page stated that it is "an exclusive TV service for university students... only available to students with a ".ac.uk" address" [2]. So, not a national TV station, just a web streaming service available to a limited number of people.
Secondly, the reason for passing criterion 7 is that their EP was voted number one that year by a local online newspaper. But that isn't the same as saying they are a prominent representative of the local scene, as criterion 7 states... this is a list compiled not according to genre or local scene, but a type of record format with limited releases in the modern era. And was it coincidence that the only local band in the list was number one?
So these are apparently the two most notable sources for the band. The group have no further recordings other than the two EPs mentioned in the article – they split up two months after the release of the second EP. Vocalist Dales and guitarist Hukins immediately formed another band, Maze Canyons, which evolved into their current outfit, Molly Anna (also not notable). The rest of Young Peculiar seem to have left the music industry and found jobs in Sheffield, from what I can track down. Richard3120 (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. The passing of NMUSIC should not be so "contrived" or "gamed". At a common sense level, this band is not notable. Britishfinance (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Sources do not make it evident that the band it notable. Reywas92Talk 21:22, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom and totally agree with User:Britishfinance. I have seen specific notability criterion argued as being an exception to WP:GNG and that is simply not true. If someone is notable in a specific area they are surely "generally notable". We should not "stretch" or game notability criterion to allow substandard BLP or reated articles to exist. I fully support that a reference might be acceptable for content verification while not advancing notability. Otr500 (talk) 08:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know whether Britishfinance and Otr500 are referring to the article creator or the editor who dePRODded my PROD proposal, but just to be absolutely clear, I do not believe the dePRODding editor was acting in bad faith... I believe they sincerely believed that the band had been featured in a national TV station and had been considered a representative of a local scene, but had not investigated the finer details of these sources. Richard3120 (talk) 13:57, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Not a greatly significant or important band; nothing really worth keeping. RobinCarmody (talk) 22:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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