Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wadsworth Jarrell and the AFRI-COBRA movement
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Wadsworth Jarrell. v/r - TP 00:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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AFRICOBRA and Wadsworth Jarrell each have their own pages. Much of the content of the article is duplicated from these pages Dac04 (talk) 19:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Selectively merge to Wadsworth Jarrell
and AFRICOBRAand thendeleteredirect. There's not enough on either topic to start crossing them like this. Some redundancy on WP is fine but this is too far. Lagrange613 (talk) 23:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment/question merging and then deleting removes the article history. If there is content suitable for inclusion on wikipedia and it is merged elsewhere, then the original article is deleted, then how are the original editor's contributions acknowledged? Polyamorph (talk) 15:32, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the article's history has been adding content to and wikifying the original version; take a look at this version, which is dated 24 minutes after the article's creation. I don't think we'd lose anything deleting the history. Lagrange613 (talk) 17:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We'd lose the usernames of the contributing editors. My point being if content is saved but merged elsewhere their contributions will not be acknowledged. I suggest including their username(s) in the edit summary or talk page should any merge of content take place, or else make the page a redirect then the history will remain. If you were simply suggesting to delete the article then there is no reason to acknowledge the contributing editors. However, a merge should never take place with out referencing the original source. In order to comply with wikipedia licensing requirements deleted content cannot be used elsewhere on wikipedia without adequate attribution. See WP:CWW. Merges always require at the very least the source to be attributed in the edit summary. The template {{Copied}} can also be useful. In which case it is better to have the original page as a redirect. I wonder how many pages like this get deleted after merges without proper attribution to the original authors. Attribution of content on wikipedia is obligatory. Regards Polyamorph (talk) 20:36, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The policy on merges is that the page being merged from must remain as a redirect to preserve attribution, per Wikipedia's copyright policies, I believe. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:34, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right; I was being sloppy. As it turns out the part about AFRICOBRA was copied and pasted from that article, so we can just selectively merge and redirect to Wadsworth Jarrell. I'd also be okay with just redirecting if whoever was actually doing it felt there wasn't anything worth salvaging. Lagrange613 05:16, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The policy on merges is that the page being merged from must remain as a redirect to preserve attribution, per Wikipedia's copyright policies, I believe. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:34, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We'd lose the usernames of the contributing editors. My point being if content is saved but merged elsewhere their contributions will not be acknowledged. I suggest including their username(s) in the edit summary or talk page should any merge of content take place, or else make the page a redirect then the history will remain. If you were simply suggesting to delete the article then there is no reason to acknowledge the contributing editors. However, a merge should never take place with out referencing the original source. In order to comply with wikipedia licensing requirements deleted content cannot be used elsewhere on wikipedia without adequate attribution. See WP:CWW. Merges always require at the very least the source to be attributed in the edit summary. The template {{Copied}} can also be useful. In which case it is better to have the original page as a redirect. I wonder how many pages like this get deleted after merges without proper attribution to the original authors. Attribution of content on wikipedia is obligatory. Regards Polyamorph (talk) 20:36, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the article's history has been adding content to and wikifying the original version; take a look at this version, which is dated 24 minutes after the article's creation. I don't think we'd lose anything deleting the history. Lagrange613 (talk) 17:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 04:34, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Selectively merge and redirect as discussed above. Polyamorph (talk) 07:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Cobra Commander says delete. I don't see much of a point in having a redirect to anything from this title; anyone who typed it into the search box would get Wadsworth Jarrell anyways. This text is not neutral, and the only way to make an encyclopedia article out of it would be to remove it all: Jarrell's 1972 work Revolutionary depicts a larger-than-life woman in a fiery state of impassioned speech. It is important to note that the woman is Angela Davis, a vital figure in the fight for civil rights. In the piece, Davis is pictured as a monumental character who dons a belt of bullets, an allusion to the militaristic attitudes held by the Black Panthers, a combative sect of the Black Panther Movement. Davis is literally surrounded by social slogans that were echoed throughout the era of civil rights. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:43, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.