Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University Mall (Pensacola, Florida)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Keilana^talk_(recall) 00:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

University Mall (Pensacola, Florida)

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Never minding that this page is horribly out of date (McRae's became Belk two years ago), the mall in question seems to be non-notable. A search for sources online turned up nothing but listings for motels nearby or showtimes for the theater. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete lacking any clear policy allowing these WP:USEFUL pages to be kept. JJL (talk) 03:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Although super-regional malls usually are notable, this one has closed down. It's historic significance has not been established. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Closed down? Since when? I drove past it this weekend, it was open. 68.101.22.132 (talk) 01:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, I suppose I should note, the local paper has written on the mall, and the plan to convert it into a lifestyle center. Haven't paid much attention to it, but it's been written about. I'm sure finding the articles will be a chore, they have a terrible search system. 68.101.22.132 (talk) 01:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: The arguments for deletion so far have been based on a lot of misinformation. For one, the article does note that the McRae's has been converted to a Belk. McRae's is only mentioned in a historical context. Secondly, the mall is not closed down. It is very much open and functional. The article was written in order to activate a previously created "dead link" on a disambiguation page. Also, notability cannot be based on one random Internet search by a single user. I can only hope that future discussions of this nature would be a little more respectful. Perimeter285 (talk) 04:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: What wasn't respectful? Respectful of whom? The mall? Epthorn (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: The tone of the request for deletion was pretty glib and sarcastic.64.123.211.89 (talk) 16:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep based on the square footage alone I believe this is sufficiently notable and we're not running out of disk space any time soon. RFerreira (talk) 05:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete- no notability established aside from existence. Wikipedia may not be paper, but that is not an excuse to include non-encyclopedic information. The "disk-space" argument is useful, rather, so that you don't have to choose between including two notable articles. This is not such a case.Epthorn (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The mall pushes the boundaries of super-regional status and is sufficiently notable. (jarbarf) (talk) 05:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Evil Spartan (talk) 20:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Just seems like another mall to me...non-notable, and square feet (mentioned above) doesn't matter. How much of the square feet is used is the question. Thus, a building might be 1 billion square feet, and only half of it is used. Jonathan ^{I wish you healthy and happy holidays.} 21:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep large regional mall, there seem to be sufficient sorces [1] --W.marsh 23:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep if Expanded since the article says "currently slated to undergo redevelopment as an open-air lifestyle center, to be renamed The Village at University Place. All of the existing structure except for the anchor stores will be demolished as part of this redevelopment." there will obviously be sources. DGG (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• I can't find any information about "Village at University Place" in Pensacola, or anything else at all that says that this mall will be turned into a lifestyle center. Was this info in error? Most likely... Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 23:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Smaller then the 800,000 sqft where size is considered to be notable. There is clearly no attempt to establish notability in the article unless you consider being the newest (build in 1974) large mall in the area. The 'keep if expanded' opinion should be considered a delete opinion since this article was nominated 11 days ago and it has not been expanded. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.