Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tomas Lamanauskas

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The result was no consensus. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 19:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Tomas Lamanauskas

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Not notable person. Re-created by a related party after the article was deleted via PROD. Renata•3 01:35, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 03:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lithuania-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 03:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

• This person is the Deputy Secretary-General of one of the most important United Nations Specialized Agencies. Bquast (talk)

Just to note that the previous Deputy Secretary-General was Malcolm Johnson (administrator), the is an article on his. As on the DSG before Houlin Zhao. Bquast (talk) 12:49, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

• No tiene sentido, ¿el tipo es semidirector de una importante agencia de la ONU? 2800:D300:3800:3EDD:CC94:2E45:3E8A:7F04 (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

• "Vice secretário general" seria la traducción del título en español. Simaocampos (talk) 07:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Complementando: su página oficial en inglés - https://www.itu.int/en/osg/dsg/Pages/default.aspx y español, https://www.itu.int/es/osg/dsg/Pages/default.aspx

Electo por la Asemblea Plenipotenciaria de la UIT enoctobre 2022, ref https://pp22.itu.int/en/elections/elections-results/ Simaocampos (talk) 08:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

• The esteemed gentleman is the 2nd in command of a UN agency. To attest to its (and his) importance, see e.g. this article about his (then upcoming) election "The most important election nobody’s ever heard of. Vote to keep Aditisrinivasan (talk) 15:22, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

• Considering what other users have said before me, he seems to be sufficiently notable, and there are already articles about his predecessors Malcolm Johnson (administrator) and Houlin Zhao. So, I vote to keep.--Cukrakalnis (talk) 16:28, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Seeming notable and having sources that discuss him are two different things. Oaktree b (talk) 02:20, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 15:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete Under-secretary of the ITU might be notable, but there are no sources that discuss this individual. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 02:22, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

  The ITU Deputy Secretary General is an ex-officio Under-Secretary General of the UN System Bquast (talk) 18:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

  There is a source from the World Economic Forum that gives a profile as well as one by the OECD Bquast (talk) 18:55, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete - Doesn't seem like a notable - official? I also peeked at Johnson and Zhao, they are longer but also rather poorly referenced. They may require Articles for Deletion treatment also. - GizzyCatBella🍁 13:15, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

  Zhao after Deputy Secretary General became Secretary General of ITU. I think that meet notability by most reasonable standards. Bquast (talk) 18:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

  Notability for Wikipedia is not established by claiming that certain title is "important" but by showing significant coverage in third-party sources. Please read WP:Notability. Renata•3 00:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Keep - It seems to me like there is more or less consensus about the notability of this person. I saw a some major third-party sources being cited. I added another one (full interview with the person that is the subject of this article) Geezerberkhout (talk) 23:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Specific citations in support of our arguments are needed, Geezerberkhout. And interviews have a hard time making it on their own. As to the consensus you are seeing, there isn't here. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

• Keep. The plethora of sources is enough for the subject to merit inclusion. And there's extra coverage about the importance of specifically this individual's appointment at the ITU directorate. (See the Politico article, among others.) -The Gnome (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
• Don't Delete The argument that there were no sufficient sources, may have had some validity (as opposed to the argument of not being notable), but as of now I see references to full length articles on the subject of this article from Yale, WEF, OECD, Nokia, and a range of others, so there is no longer a dearth of notable sources (that are on the subject). Aditisrinivasan (talk) 02:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.