Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superfluous game lists

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. Mailer Diablo 14:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Metroid games

This was nominated for AfD incorrectly. Fixing this; I did not nominate. -- H·G (^words/_works) 05:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Superfluous game lists

• List of Metroid games
• List of Lemmings games
• List of Dizzy games
• List of Pac-Man games

All of these lists were created by User:Touth with the sole intent of simply adding more lists to Lists of video games and computer games. These lists are too small to deserve their own articles, and should either be deleted or merged into the articles for their respective series. -- LGagnon 01:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete since, correct me if I'm wrong, there are already cats for all of these. --Bill (who is cool!) 01:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete gamecruft. Aplomado ^talk 01:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Improve if LGagnon does not like these lists then i strongly recommend that he and the rest of you should improve them. if you do not then you are just wasting my time. Touth 04:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment User:LtPowers made a point on your talk page (12:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)) that might be relevant here. The goal is to gain consensus on the appropriate course treatment of articles, not to gang up on individual editors or anything of that sort. Please assume our good faith here, and we'll give you the same courtesy. -- H·G (^words/_works) 05:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Since my name has been invoked... =) It should be noted that not everyone has assumed good faith with Touth in the past; he/she has been called a vandal for repeatedly inserting additions to the Lists of video games and computer games article and other behavior. In addition, LGagnon above assumes that the "lists were created... with the sole intent of ... adding more lists to Lists of video games and computer games." LGagnon doesn't know that for sure, although I agree it's a likely interpretation. I've tried to work with Touth on making sure his/her contributions to Wikipedia are appropriate (making these possibly superfluous lists is better than repeatedly adding non-list articles to a list of lists, which he/she did before). So I think Touth can be excused for feeling like LGagnon is out to destroy his/her work. Powers 11:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• I would like to note that I only accused Touth of vandalism when he clearly did it. He has blanked parts of the talk page to Lists of video games and computer games, and has often been unwilling to discuss his actions when there is controversy over them on the talk page, instead making edits that he has been asked not to make. And yes, I do know for sure that he was only creating lists to add them to that article; the "What links here" page for those articles link only to the lists article.

And I'd like to point out that editing Wikipedia is for the sake of Wikipedia, not some individual's personal reasons. If Touth wants lists of games he likes, he can put them on his user page. He does not need to fill up Wikipedia's mainspace with listcruft just for the fun of it. -- LGagnon 17:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, categories already exist (or should) for all of these subjects. Categories serve the same purpose as these lists and work better with Wikipedia's design, so I always prefer keeping those over lists like these. -- H·G (^words/_works) 05:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Followup, I think it might also be healthy to consider re-nominating Lists of video games and computer games as CSD:A3 and/or listcruft. Not really here nor there, but worth mention since we're discussing it obliquely. -- H·G (^words/_works) 05:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete and use categories instead. BryanG^(talk) 05:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all, I'm pretty sure we have categories and templates that are better for these. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 08:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all redundant lists if with the cat's already in place hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 17:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as redundant to game articles and categories already in existence. -- nae'blis _(talk) 21:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as redundant due to catagories and templates already in use. Jibbles 16:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect all to their respective series pages. -- Grev 02:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.