Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SteamVR

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Steam (service). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:22, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

SteamVR

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This platform lived a short life and, as of 2020, is no longer supported by its creator. It appears to have made no significant contributions to virtual reality and is better suited as a brief entry on its creator's article. IndyNotes (talk) 17:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge back to Steam (which is where this content originated from and has been added back already). Shirt term experiment that clearly us no longer being pursued valid search term and discussion within Steam, but not stand alone--Masem (t) 19:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Humbly put, you're wrong. SteamVR is currently used by millions of people and its latest update was last week:

https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-steam-vr-headset-stats-2021-monthly-active-users/

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/250820

There is no discussion here. I'm removing the deletion tag from the page now. Rosedaler (talk) 05:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

How can we close the AfD discussion? Rosedaler (talk) 07:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

That's the neat part, you don't. Decisions on Wikipedia are determined by WP:CONSENSUS, not unilaterally by one user. (Not saying you're wrong though.) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

• Keep due to my comments above Rosedaler (talk) 07:32, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

  Note: User is indef blocked due to editwarring and WP:CIR. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Keep SteamVR doesn't appear to be defunct, but regardless per WP:NEXIST it seems to have gotten WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources. Article 1 and Article 2 are both clearly significant coverage, and these two articles, while a bit more trivial, indicate lasting notability by being a couple of years apart. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

  There is a difference between "SteamVR" the hardware device (which ultimately is the Valve Index unit) and SteamVR the extension of Steam that operates in VR. The former doesn't seem to be used by Valve to describe their hardware platform, it is what industry people came to call it (wrongly). SteamVR being strictly a software piece, its functionality is best captured in the existing Steam (service) article, since it operates off Steamworks. Masem (t) 12:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

  Agree with @Masem here. Folks here seem to conflate the hardware device with the software piece. IndyNotes (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

• Weak Keep per Zxcvbnm or Merge suggested by Masem per WP:ATD if the latter is more popular, but I disagree with deletion or redirection. Sadly, most of the refs in the article are routine announcements. However, IMHO the two articles provided by Zxcvbnm are decently long to be SIGCOV and are also RS per WP:VG/RS with some critical commentary. Unfortunately, most of the refs in Google News per WP:BEFORE, such as 1, 2 among others are routine or trivial mentions. However, two decent refs probably is a borderline meeting of WP:NPRODUCT (see also the essay Wikipedia:NSOFTWARE). If merging is more popular that's also fine with me. Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 09:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge wih Steam per Masem, I've struck my previous vote. VickKiang (talk) 21:37, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge with Steam. Citations lean on a handful of repeated sources while the article itself has ongoing unaddressed issues and has hovered just above stub status since its 2015 creation. I do agree deletion is not an option and the subject today still receives some coverage in gaming news, but it may serve best as its own section in the main Steam article. If the above issues are dealt with, it's certainly worthy of a keep. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 20:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge: I nominated this for deletion, but I am persuaded by the merge commentary above.--IndyNotes (talk) 17:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge as a WP:ATD. Personally, I think the AfD was too quick to make after the one editor removed the redirect. This discussion confirms what the article has been since its creation - a redirect until notability can be established on its own. – The Grid (talk) 21:30, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

I am unsure what you mean. At the time of review and AfD, this was (and still is) a standalone article. The article's content originated from and has been added back already to the Stream article, but this separate article is no longer needed. I do not see where it was ever a redirect.—IndyNotes (talk) 16:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.