Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Satanas

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —— RyanLupin • (talk) 11:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Satanas

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Non-notable criminal organization which fails every guideline and policy under the sun, primarily one of verifiability (lacks non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications). JBsupreme (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • delete No assertion of notability. I found nothing about the subject at the link in article. No google news mentions that I saw. Dlohcierekim 06:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Switch to Keep per Silk Tork's research Dlohcierekim 14:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • speedy delete meets A7 criteria — Alan✉ 06:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC) keep notability now asserted and verified; nice work SilkTork — Alan✉ 12:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy as non-notable club or organisation. It always amuses me in situations with "gangs" making articles; you get a page of "we are the hippest guys in LA, yo, we'll put a cap in yo ass, nobody is better than us, you get me?" with a big tag at the top in bright red saying "this organisation is unimportant". Keep per new ref's; good work SilkTork Ironholds 12:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The gang exists, and there seems to be some material on them - [1]. It is unfortunate that the master's thesis is unpublished, but it does indicate serious academic interest, and given time and motivation someone might be able to pull together enough reliable information for an article. SilkTork *YES! 10:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That thesis is available for study in a university library [2] so it qualifies as a reliable source. SilkTork *YES! 10:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The thesis appears in a number of libraries - [3]. Perhaps it has been published? SilkTork *YES! 10:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, a solid reference - [4]. "largest and most feared Filipino street gang" "founded in 1972". Asian American Youth: Culture, Identity and Ethnicity, Jennifer Lee, ISBN 0415946689. SilkTork *YES! 10:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Kudos to SilkTork for establishing notability and saving the article. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 23:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I have removed the first reference provided by SilkTork in the article: NationMaster Encyclopedia is a copy of this Wikipedia article (see the bottom of the NationMaster page), and is therefor not a source that can be used. Fram (talk) 08:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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