Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omi Minami
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Sk8erPrince (talk) 05:22, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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Did Omi Minami ever voice as a main role? And if so, how many? Has there ever been a role that Omi is clearly notable for? This article does not show it. Aside from that, no news coverage or strong references mean lack of notability. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 04:31, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2016 September 27. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 04:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Starring roles as Hyatt in Excel Saga, Ruri Hoshino in Martian Successor Nadesico, Majic in Orphen / Orphen Revenge. Major characters Takuro in Di Gi Charat, Fan Xinglou in The Asterisk War. 208 roles listed in VADB. [1] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:38, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- FIX the article, then. It's hard to tolerate articles with weak/limited sources and references. Maybe EXPAND her biography by including news coverage? Yeah, unless you do that, I'm not withdrawing this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- You should read WP:NOTCLEANUP, and WP:BEFORE on this one. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, doubt my AFD nominations. I hope you're prepared for my counterargument. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- In short, have you bothered to look for sources before throwing this to AfD? Usually this is a solid argument when editors say that they have put the effort into trying to find things but turned up short. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I have. But they're just limited sources. Understand that in an AFD, you have two sides to choose - object or agree. If you object, you MUST prove to me what makes the subject so notable that I should withdraw the AFD. It is YOUR burden of proof. I don't have any responsibilities in matter; work hard and scrape any strong source you could find if you really intend to keep the article. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:46, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- In short, have you bothered to look for sources before throwing this to AfD? Usually this is a solid argument when editors say that they have put the effort into trying to find things but turned up short. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, doubt my AFD nominations. I hope you're prepared for my counterargument. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- You should read WP:NOTCLEANUP, and WP:BEFORE on this one. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- FIX the article, then. It's hard to tolerate articles with weak/limited sources and references. Maybe EXPAND her biography by including news coverage? Yeah, unless you do that, I'm not withdrawing this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Multiple major roles that would pass WP:ENT, I can see that Angus already found things. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Telling me that Omi has done A, B, C or D is absolutely pointless. Unless I see those references listed, I will see to it that this article be deleted. What about news coverage? Does that not matter all of a sudden? You know, if you any one of you bothered to write a brief biography for Omi with reliable references, I might be inclined to withdraw this AFD. Currently, the only external links are IMDB (unreliable) and ANN, and one broken link that is supposedly Omi's homepage? Also, there's only ONE reference that is no different than a cast announcement. Do you honestly think that constitutes as notability? I think not. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey I'm trying to figure out whether these people should stay too. The way the current articles are, they are useless unsourced stubs that don't tell me anything about why they are important, so an AFD is worth posting so it can be discussed. At least with the above roles, I can see Omi has had significant roles in significant anime titles from the 1990s/2000s to meet WP:ENT. This means throwing a cleanup-biography tag and Expand Japanese and leaving them as stub so they can be developed. But to answer your original question, did she ever have a main role in anything? Yes, Hyatt is a lead character; there are two for the purposes of Excel Saga: Excel and Hyatt, and a bunch of supporting regulars such as Il Palazzo, Menchi, the three guys and one girl in the government company, Nabeshin, and Pedro. In Nadesico, she is a main character on the Nadesico crew, and Ruri is the focus star in the feature film (as opposed to some minor OVA episode). Majic is the sidekick to the title character Orphen and appears in every episode as a main character. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- I understand. I'll step back a little bit - if you could list all of Omi's notable credits in this format, I'll withdraw this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:46, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Omi's biography should include her major credits. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:53, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- I understand. I'll step back a little bit - if you could list all of Omi's notable credits in this format, I'll withdraw this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:46, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey I'm trying to figure out whether these people should stay too. The way the current articles are, they are useless unsourced stubs that don't tell me anything about why they are important, so an AFD is worth posting so it can be discussed. At least with the above roles, I can see Omi has had significant roles in significant anime titles from the 1990s/2000s to meet WP:ENT. This means throwing a cleanup-biography tag and Expand Japanese and leaving them as stub so they can be developed. But to answer your original question, did she ever have a main role in anything? Yes, Hyatt is a lead character; there are two for the purposes of Excel Saga: Excel and Hyatt, and a bunch of supporting regulars such as Il Palazzo, Menchi, the three guys and one girl in the government company, Nabeshin, and Pedro. In Nadesico, she is a main character on the Nadesico crew, and Ruri is the focus star in the feature film (as opposed to some minor OVA episode). Majic is the sidekick to the title character Orphen and appears in every episode as a main character. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Telling me that Omi has done A, B, C or D is absolutely pointless. Unless I see those references listed, I will see to it that this article be deleted. What about news coverage? Does that not matter all of a sudden? You know, if you any one of you bothered to write a brief biography for Omi with reliable references, I might be inclined to withdraw this AFD. Currently, the only external links are IMDB (unreliable) and ANN, and one broken link that is supposedly Omi's homepage? Also, there's only ONE reference that is no different than a cast announcement. Do you honestly think that constitutes as notability? I think not. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:Ent. The "spirit of the law" should be that the roles have been validated and assessed and in this case she is sufficiently notable. Hyatt is a main character but it would be unfair to require the coverage Kotono Mitsuishi received for playing Excel (which for the most part is usually linked to the performance of the English actors for that role). Requiring biographies is an unnecessary step. SephyTheThird (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.