Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of undefeated national association football teams

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is clear to Delete this article. Because an editor challenged my closure of another football-related AFD discussion I'll just say that personally, I find these kinds of articles interesting. But AFD is not about one person's opinion, even the closer. It's about what the community wants which, as a closer, I try to carry out. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

List of undefeated national association football teams

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Topic of unclear notability. This article is further confusing because it mixes teams that were undefeated in WC qualifying with teams that were undefeated in main WC play in the same table (for each WC year).

Article is unsourced and so may be WP:OR. Natg 19 (talk) 02:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Lists. Natg 19 (talk) 02:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Natg 19 (talk) 02:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
• Comment if nothing else, the title of the article is completely wrong, because "List of undefeated national association football teams" would cover teams which have never lost a match, as in ever, of which I'm pretty sure there aren't any...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:52, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes, I agree with this as well. If kept, this article and the title needs a drastic overhaul. Natg 19 (talk) 17:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment To me it's unclear what the article is trying to do. I get part of the gist of it, however in my view put some WP:TNT under it! :/ Govvy (talk) 10:04, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
• Delete - indiscriminate, random list. GiantSnowman 19:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
• Delete - The undefeated teams are not statistics. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 09:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
• Delete - I can't see any evidence that this meets WP:GNG as it doesn't appear to be something that is discussed at length in WP:RS. Also think it might violate WP:INDISCRIMINATE, which is a Wikipedia policy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
• Delete. The title bugs me. Is it undefeated for an entire season, or just undefeated this season, or, as the nom suggests, undefeated forever? Would it require maintenance after the first game of the season, to list every 1-0 team? It's a guaranteed mess to maintain, it invites vandalism, it's WP:INDISCRIMINATE, fails WP:NLIST... Let's get rid of it now. Jacona (talk) 11:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. Are you people mad? You don't understand football, fine. You don't have to ruin everything football related. Not all of Wikipedia is about academia people enjoy knowing about sports, too. Mohenhance (talk) 18:21, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This article has a predecessor which was discussed in this AfD. It was originally created in something like 2010 by User:Jnestorius and had a narrower scope, listing only teams that either (a) won undefeated, (b) were eliminated without losing, or (c) did not qualify despite never losing in qualification. I then expanded it to include all teams undefeated in qualification, and eventually it was deleted. Apparently the creator of the current page had stored the code of the previous one and has recreated it (it looks pretty much exactly like the previous one prior to deletion). --Theurgist (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment: While I understand the rationale behind the imminent deletion, I have edited the tables to make them simpler and more to-the-point, in case yet someone else would like to store the code. --Theurgist (talk) 03:32, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.