Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of music featured on Doctor Who (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:52, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

List of music featured on Doctor Who

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This list seems to just be pointless trivia. While it's fun to look through, I don't really see much value in keeping this list around, as a brief search doesn't seem to yield any results indicating that guest music is notable in Doctor Who beyond this one Den of Geek article I found: https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who-unforgettable-musical-moments/. While music in Doctor Who seems to be decently notable enough (For instance, the main theme which has its own article) guest music does not seem to demonstrate enough notability to justify a separate list. I don't think there's a viable AtD here, so this is probably one of the few articles I'd suggest outright deletion on. Pokelego999 (talk) 17:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Music, Television, and Lists. Pokelego999 (talk) 17:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. "Pointless trivia" pretty much sums it up. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:54, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete - There are no sources that actually provide any notability to this topic, which is essentially on every piece of pre-existing music that was ever used in Doctor Who, no matter how incidentally. An article on the music of Dr. Who, in the sense of the music composed for the series, could potentially have merit, but this list is nothing but pure, non-notable trivia. Rorshacma (talk) 22:14, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. Yes, there are sources. There is the DoG article mentioned in the nomination. And another. And an article in Vice. The role of both the original music and "employment of pop music" in the soundtrack is analysed here (in the chapter "Pop-Rock diegetic music", for instance), insisting the use of guest pop music has a role in the story and is a key component of the film. So, fun, yes, but very much not pointless and not trivial, I'd say. (NB- Music in DW is not only decently notable enough, it's extremely notable!....)-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:29, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

• Comment - Again, an actual article on the Music of Dr. Who has merit. This current list is not that, though, its just a list of every song ever used in the series with no actual curation limiting it to those that actually had notability or significance, nor any kind of analyses like in the sources you provided. An article about the notable use of music in the series is a valid article - this list is just trivia. Rorshacma (talk) 22:36, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

  Agreed with above. I definitely feel like rewrites are going to be a necessity for this article, either to accommodate for these new sources, or for the formation of a completely new article covering music as a whole, not just guest music. Pokelego999 (talk) 22:43, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I checked out your sources, and these are genuinely very good ones that I can't believe I missed during my search. I'm fine to let the article stay now, though it's definitely going to need some rewrites to accommodate the sources in the future if it does. (If this article stays, might try doing that myself, but I'll see how the current discussion goes in light of these being found.) Pokelego999 (talk) 22:41, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

• Keep per nominators latest comment "I'm fine to let the article stay now, [...]" Christian75 (talk) 11:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:LISTN and WP:NOT. Licensed music is used frequently in modern media. This is outside the scope of Wikipedia, and crosses into the scope of databases like allmusic or what-song or even spotify. This just isn't an appropriate subject for a list, and at most, someone could write a short paragraph summarizing the critical reception of the show's music. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:42, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete: per norm, and fully agree with Shorterwalker. ihateneo (talk) 01:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Redirect to Doctor_Who#Music. This is a poorly referenced list of trivia. I'd support creation of Music of Doctor Who, of course - notable topic to be written. But not in this way. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:59, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete Other websites such as tunefind.com do the job for listing songs (and much better than WP), just like IMDB does a better job for listing actors. We don't need to record every detail here on WP. – sgeureka ^t•c 09:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:39, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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