Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first ice hockey internationals per country

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. G4, Disruptive recreation, and editing at the AfD. See also ANI. Star Mississippi 01:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

List of first ice hockey internationals per country

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This list fails WP:LISTN, with no independent reliable sources to validate why a standalone list is notable. The list currently has only Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill citations to box scores, which do nothing to state why the list is notable as a whole. All content on this list was previously deleted as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first ice hockey internationals per country: 1909–1999 and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first women's ice hockey internationals per country: 1987-1999. Note: This was a contested proposed deletion. Flibirigit (talk) 20:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

NOTE:The author of the deleted articles has cut and paste all of the deleted material from the two AFDs listed above, into this list. Flibirigit (talk) 20:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

• Keep Article is first international soccer matches is deemed valid, you need IQ not sources to understand that is is valid through WP:LISTN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dweisz94 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  Telling anyone "you need IQ" goes against Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Civility. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  Um, Ice hockey and soccer/football are two different things. No comment in the IQ quip, but please keep it civil. Oaktree b (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per clear consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first ice hockey internationals per country: 1909–1999 and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first women's ice hockey internationals per country: 1987-1999. Copying and pasting the entirety of the deleted content into a different article shows a lack of respect for the clear consensus established at those two discussions. The correct way to dispute the deletion of those articles would be to contact the deleting administrator and then, if still unsatisfied, go to WP:DRV. In any case, the restored content still does not address the reasons as to why the articles were deleted in the first place, which were the complete lack of independent sourcing showing significant coverage and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, a Wikipedia policy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ice hockey and Lists. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  Users have actually not been made aware of the fact the first soccer internationals exists prior to deletion Dweisz94 (talk) 20:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

You are more than welcome to create a separate discussion for that article if you believe that it also lacks merit. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I think it doesn’t lack merit, I think it’s a great article Dweisz94 (talk) 20:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

• Keep Flibirigit should be ashamed to destroy a constructive article in hopes of recording Dweisz94 as a bad Wikipedia user 64.229.87.233 (talk) 20:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)— 64.229.87.233 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  No comment was made about any user, nor is there any such intent. Flibirigit (talk) 21:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  Please do be civil, no one is ashamed of anyone or anything here. Oaktree b (talk) 00:37, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• Delete. This article was a redirect article until yesterday [1]. The recently added content was all merged from the two articles mentioned above, just before they were deleted by consensus. Ajf773 (talk) 21:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
• Speedy delete: This has already been discussed, and my vote on the linked AFD applies here. Reywas92^Talk 22:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Keep Highly disagree with reasons of it going under WP:INDISCRIMINATE, these are not umexplained statistics, notability is self explanatory 2605:8D80:643:64B3:3592:4432:F67:B31C (talk) 22:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)— 2605:8D80:643:64B3:3592:4432:F67:B31C (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Keep seems decently sourced, and a somewhat useful list. Could perhaps use a rewrite of the intro, first international game between different national teams, not the first hockey game played in the country. Oaktree b (talk) 00:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

.Speedy delete as an obvious attempt to circumvent the consensus of the other two AfDs. If you wish to contest that consensus WP:DRV is the correct forum. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 00:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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