Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish Recipients of National Medal of Technology
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty(cat scratches) 10:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We don't even have a List of Recipients of the National Medal of Technology for god sakes StabRule 19:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a partial list in National Medal of Technology. Why not complete it? - RachelBrown 12:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 14:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete obviosuly. Dottore So 15:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. More listcruft gone amok. And why do I have a feeling no one was planning to create List of Buddhist Recipients of National Medal of Technology? 23skidoo 15:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because Buddhism is not an ethnicity? Kappa 18:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- But Jewishness isn't necessarily one either. Assume we had a List of Jewish entertainers. Would Sammy Davis, Jr. be included? --howcheng [ t • c • w • e ] 22:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because Buddhism is not an ethnicity? Kappa 18:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per reasons all List of Jewish whatchamacallits. howcheng [ t • c • w • e ] 17:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete all such lists where religion is likley irrelevant to the achievement. DES (talk) 17:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- No reason to suppose that being Jewish is irrelevant - in similar lists, such as Jewish Nobel Prize winners and Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society, it is clear that the proportion of Jews in these categories is quite high, so there is prima facie evidence of some link - RachelBrown 13:37, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep all lists of achievement by ethnicity. Kappa 18:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete they did not win the award for being Jewish so the list is pointless --TimPope 18:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per DESiegel, and for the reasons I mentioned in other such lists. Nandesuka 19:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to List of recipients of the National Medal of Technology (national in what country?) and seriously EXPAND, or if that fails delete. The fact they're Jewish has nothing to do with them winning the medal. Makes no point in sorting that way. Let's get a list of winners first and worry about sorting later. - Mgm|(talk) 20:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia is not a home to lists of random unrelated things. Durova 23:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-encyclopedic, per nom. Jtmichcock 03:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep being a certain nationality often has nothing to do with being a certain profession either so according to that argument all the professions by nationality categories/lists should be merged. Arniep 18:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete There's an infinite amount of these lists - List of Jewish Recipients of National Medal of Science should probably be voted on too. 65.9.143.76 00:10, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, trivia. Radiant_>|< 12:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - there has been a recent flood of these AfDs; nobody can explain convincingly why this applies to Jews but not (say) Armenians or gay people. - RachelBrown 12:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This isn't specifically about Jews. There exists neither a List of Armenian Recipients of National Medal of Technology nor a List of LGBT Recipients of National Medal of Technology, and if there were I would also vote to delete those. Radiant_>|< 13:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So why haven't you slapped an AfD on say Category:Armenian chess players or List of gay, lesbian or bisexual composers? - RachelBrown 13:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because I was unaware of them, of course. It's a big wiki. In my opinion, Category:Armenian chess players should stay, because we categorize just about every person in Category:Countryname profession. I don't quite see the point of LGBT composers, though, especially considering the sorry state that mess is in. I've put on tags to {{merge}} it and note that it's mostly {{unsourced}}. The answer to questions such as this is generally, {{sofixit}}. If you perceive a problem, doing something about it is more useful than complaining. Radiant_>|< 01:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I have replied to Mr Radiant on his talk page and won't waste space by repeating it here. - RachelBrown 09:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with Radiant. We already had this discussion about the distinction between category and list. As for the LGB composers -- that needs to be checked out. Antidote 03:28, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because I was unaware of them, of course. It's a big wiki. In my opinion, Category:Armenian chess players should stay, because we categorize just about every person in Category:Countryname profession. I don't quite see the point of LGBT composers, though, especially considering the sorry state that mess is in. I've put on tags to {{merge}} it and note that it's mostly {{unsourced}}. The answer to questions such as this is generally, {{sofixit}}. If you perceive a problem, doing something about it is more useful than complaining. Radiant_>|< 01:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So why haven't you slapped an AfD on say Category:Armenian chess players or List of gay, lesbian or bisexual composers? - RachelBrown 13:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This isn't specifically about Jews. There exists neither a List of Armenian Recipients of National Medal of Technology nor a List of LGBT Recipients of National Medal of Technology, and if there were I would also vote to delete those. Radiant_>|< 13:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above. Lists per country are interesting, lists per nationality are not. Grue 18:29, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jews, when if anyone delete, please tell my talk page. --Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 07:12, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm pretty sure this is against the rules, but User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg has been saving deleted jewish lists on his user talk page and linking to them. EscapeArtistsNeverDie 20:31, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete For obvious reasons now. EscapeArtistsNeverDie 20:31, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Preaky 06:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This isn't a vehicle for boosting ethnic pride. Pilatus 19:24, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. LazarKr 07:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Edwardian 23:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete 72.144.71.234 05:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep. I hate anonymous noms and I hate sock puppets, like the one above.-- JJay 06:01, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstain I don't think I should've voted based on irritation. Also looking up Category:Lists of Jews it's not being destroyed the way I may have thought. There's about 62 such lists surviving, which compares well to Category:Lists of Indians by state or Category:Lists of Japanese people or Category:Lists of Christians. That said I think the policy allowing anonymous votes for deletion or keep should probably be ended.--T. Anthony 15:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.