Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of BSA local Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Delete all. *sigh* --Deathphoenix 02:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be a list of nn locations Wiki is not. Makemi 05:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Does anyone know how to add all the subpages the same user added, so that each doesn't have to be "voted" on separately? Makemi 05:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Ugh, there are like a million and one of these, and some of them are pretty old. I've added a bunch, but there are a bunch more. I'm not sure why these have stayed this long. The organisation may be notable, but certainly listing every single lodge in the country isn't appropriate. Here's what else I've nominated under this so far. Makemi 05:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- List of BSA local councils and districts in Georgia
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Georgia
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Delaware
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Connecticut
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Colorado
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in California
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Arkansas
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Arizona
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Alaska
- List of BSA Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges in Alabama
I've nominated the rest of them. I don't think it's necessary to list them all here -- just use "what links here" or look at List of BSA local Order of the Arrow (OA) lodges. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-26 08:47Z
- Delete per nom. Ruby 05:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep (change mine to merge into history-by-state) as we are merging and codifying these as part of ScoutingWikiProject. Chris 05:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How is the end result supposed to look like? I am happy to change my vote if you can show me that this will produce something that will be okay with WP:NOT a directory. Kusma (討論) 06:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- We are working at turning the corresponding Council list into histories of Scouting by U.S. State, which will be a long process, as I've heard there are are a lot of states. ;) Chris 08:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Then you should create articles about History of scouting in California, not directory-style lists. If these lists help you to do the work, they should be in project space, not article space. Kusma (討論) 13:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I think Kusma makes a good point, the Scouting project can use the info, but I have to admit it'd be better if it weren't a bunch of short lists.Rlevse 20:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I am going to take each state list and add to each existing article (e.g., Scouting in Alabama), especially the GA and FL, which are more than just lists. I am new at this, and my only concern is that the authors for GA and FL don't lose where they went. Go ahead and delete, I have copied them so I didn't lose them before I had a chance to merge them. May take me a couple of days. Robhmac 21:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I think Kusma makes a good point, the Scouting project can use the info, but I have to admit it'd be better if it weren't a bunch of short lists.Rlevse 20:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Then you should create articles about History of scouting in California, not directory-style lists. If these lists help you to do the work, they should be in project space, not article space. Kusma (討論) 13:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- We are working at turning the corresponding Council list into histories of Scouting by U.S. State, which will be a long process, as I've heard there are are a lot of states. ;) Chris 08:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How is the end result supposed to look like? I am happy to change my vote if you can show me that this will produce something that will be okay with WP:NOT a directory. Kusma (討論) 06:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all these pages. One external link on Order of the Arrow to [1] is sufficient and should be more useful than this massive collection of non-articles. Kusma (討論) 05:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all the list pages - as it currently stands, these lists will never be able to be anything other than directories. If individual lodges are notable enough, they might be worth mentioning as part of their council's articles (assuming the council is notable enough on its own). Possibly creating Area/Section articles may be more appropriate for such grouping attempts, as more can be said about larger groups. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 06:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Compare this to the jillions of cricket articles that eventually get incorporated into something more realistic. - Jaysus Chris 06:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Please elaborate. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 06:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Certainly nice to see my old lodge up there, but WP:NOT a directory. -Rebelguys2 06:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or move to a better category? Sorry, I'm new as this. I just added 40+ states to a pretty stagnant page. Didn't mean to create such a discussion, or make so many edits. Overwrote an AFD when I finished one page. Instead of deleting, could it be turned into a specific category?? Speaking of directories, Wiki is the best place to look up, for example, TV episode guides. Robhmac 06:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Delete. I'm personally inclined to keep all of the OA lodge lists, but I really don't see them becoming more than just giant lists.
(and my lodge isn't listed)(found it!) A link to the http://www.oasections.com website on the Order of the Arrow article seems like a better idea. — TheKMantalk 07:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply] - Delete as listcruft, unencyclopedic. External link from OA article should be good enough. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-26 08:34Z
- Delete. I previously voted to keep one of these lists, but on closer look I think its better delete them. They are just too too cluttery. If any of the listed lodges are notable enough to have articles written about them, categorize them instead – that is what categories are for. --Ezeu 09:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Ncsaint 12:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Categorize or delete I agree with Ezeu, and I added most of the pages to the four states that where there at first. Any volunteers to categorize?. Robhmac 15:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all. WP is not a directory. --kingboyk 15:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, WP:NOT a data dump. Radiant_>|< 22:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete all except List of BSA local councils and districts in Georgia (councils should be wikified and deserve artcles e.g. Aloha Council) --Jiang 01:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete every single one. Wikipedia is not a directory, they're highly unlikely to be searched for, and they are list articles which appear to be of use to only a very limited number of people, i.e. listcruft. Stifle 08:59, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wiki is not. --Brian1979 22:39, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.