Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Mondo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

King Mondo

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This article does not have it's content covered in any reliable sources. During a search through Google, what I found was fansites, video websites, shopping sites, forums, etc. As the searching went on, the sources became less relevant to the subject, and instead were sites listing mere quotations, links, etc. This article's content cannot comply to WP:V or WP:RS. This article cites only television episodes as sources, which are primary sources. Thanks. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep: Character is notable as being the primary antagonist throughout the entire course of a television series. There is enough out-of-universe content in the article, and as usual, Mythdon makes every single decision about the sources he has found concerning the notability of fictional subjects. This is also possibly a violation of Mythdon's arbitration restrictions as he did not seek any sort of external input on the article in any village pump or WikiProject discussion, but I'll bring that up in the proper channels.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep as a POINTy nomination. This is just the latest "casualty" in Mythdon's need to seemingly have every sentence on Wikipedia tagged, especially when it comes to Power Rangers-related articles. JPG-GR (talk) 06:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per Ryulong. I hope that this is not a point disruption. That would be most unfortunate. Crafty (talk) 06:45, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Don't worry, it's not. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 06:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep. Main villain in a well-known TV show. Plenty of sources on the article; even if (and that's a damn huge if) any material needs to be cut due to lack of sourcing, deleting the entire article is bloody absurd. For the record, even though I haven't logged in in ages, I've been following this for a while, and Mythdon's sourcing requirements are absurd; every sentence does not need an individual citation; in many cases, one source can cover entire paragraphs or sections. I'd like to add that Mythdon has been warned by ArbCom for pulling these stunts before. jgpTC 07:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - subject is clearly covered in independent reliable sources.  Frank  |  talk  15:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
  • This seems to get rid of the mentions of an identically named character from another program.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per Frank. Powergate92Talk 17:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
• Redirect again to Machine Empire where the subject is already discussed. The few relevant search hits linked above only mention this character in passing in discussions of the series as a whole. The keep votes so far assert notability without actually amending the article with reliable sources, and that's because there are few if any reliable sources that discuss this subject in any meaningful verifiable way. Sarilox (talk) 21:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

  So you are suggesting that instead of this semi-sourced article, which has several reliable sources mentioned in this discussion which could be added to it, we should instead use Machine_Empire#King_Mondo for King Mondo - a section of an article that is entirely unsourced?  Frank  |  talk  22:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Generally a list of characters is considered a legitimate spin-off from the main series article. I certainly don't condone the currently unreferenced nature of the Machine Empire article, but if we are going to add reliable sources then that would be the place to start. If and when King Mondo can be established as notable in and of itself, then this article can be resurrected. Presently this article contains primary sources, an imdb reference merely citing the voice actor, and an interview that doesn't mention King Mondo at all. What this article does need is reliable, third-party, published sources, and suffers from having none. To quote Wikipedia:Reliable sources: "Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article and should be appropriate to the claims made; if an article topic has no reliable sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." The few reliable sources linked above do not significantly cover King Mondo, but rather they discuss the series generally while simply mentioning King Mondo as one of the characters. Without significant coverage of King Mondo, notability can not be established. Sarilox (talk) 18:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.