Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katarina Zavatska
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Notability not established. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 03:08, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- Katarina Zavatska (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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(Contested PROD) Does not meet the requirements for notability at WP:NTENNIS, or the WP:GNG. Tazerdadog (talk) 05:34, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:47, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:47, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - I can see no notability here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - Katarina Zavatska is only the fourth female player to complete a golden set in professional tennis since 1910.
- Sofia Kenin has a Wikipedia page and she only has one junior title, ranking No. 11 in the world in junior tennis.
- But Zavatska has two junior titles and two professional titles and ranked No. 14 in the world when she was a junior.
- Mira Antonitsch has a Wikipedia page and she qualified for the 1st round of the French Open junior tournament, peaking at a whopping 994th in the world.
- But Zavatska reached the quarterfinals of the French Open junior tournament, eliminated by the eventual champion, and is currently ranked 667th in the world.
- Anastasia Detiuc has a Wikipedia page and has no titles and a world ranking of 1035th.
- Dea Sumantri, Montinee Tangphong and Katie Swan have Wikipedia pages and don't seem to be any more accomplished than Zavatska.
- Superdupereditor (talk) 20:46, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- Where to start. She completed the golden set as a junior. Not in the minor league ITF events, not in the minor-minor league 10,000 ITF events, and not on the WTA tour. As for the others mentioned: Kenin played on the main WTA Tour in the US Open. Antonitsch has also played in the big leagues on the WTA Tour at the 2016 Nuremberg Cup. Detiuc played for the Moldova Fed Cup team with a 3–1 record. Tangphong has played in WTA pro tour events and Swan has played at Wimbledon and the Great Britain Fed Cup team. Not sure about Sumantri qualifications. Bottom line is the juniors aren't notable unless they are ranked in the top 3 or they WIN one of the Jr. Majors. This is spelled out in the Tennis Project Guidelines for all to see. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:57, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- Incorrect. Zavatska's golden set occurred on the pro circuit [1]. I'm still stunned that Wikipedia's rules of tennis notability are so twisted that a player whose highest ranking is No. 976 with no singles titles and one doubles title can be Wikipedia worthy while a player whose highest ranking is No. 552 is not. Superdupereditor (talk) 02:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- I stand corrected... it happened in qualifying for minor league tennis. And it's not a question of ranking... both those ranking stink for notability. One has played on the WTA tour and one hasn't. It's like Major League Baseball vs Minor League Baseball. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:59, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- Incorrect. Zavatska's golden set occurred on the pro circuit [1]. I'm still stunned that Wikipedia's rules of tennis notability are so twisted that a player whose highest ranking is No. 976 with no singles titles and one doubles title can be Wikipedia worthy while a player whose highest ranking is No. 552 is not. Superdupereditor (talk) 02:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- Where to start. She completed the golden set as a junior. Not in the minor league ITF events, not in the minor-minor league 10,000 ITF events, and not on the WTA tour. As for the others mentioned: Kenin played on the main WTA Tour in the US Open. Antonitsch has also played in the big leagues on the WTA Tour at the 2016 Nuremberg Cup. Detiuc played for the Moldova Fed Cup team with a 3–1 record. Tangphong has played in WTA pro tour events and Swan has played at Wimbledon and the Great Britain Fed Cup team. Not sure about Sumantri qualifications. Bottom line is the juniors aren't notable unless they are ranked in the top 3 or they WIN one of the Jr. Majors. This is spelled out in the Tennis Project Guidelines for all to see. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:57, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 talk 00:35, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 talk 00:35, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: This player is not notable by project standards; she has no Fed Cup or WTA main draw appearances, has not won any ITF tournaments above the $25,000 category, had no remarkable junior career (neither a Grand Slam champion nor ranked within the world's top 3), and there are no further claims that she is otherwise, at present, generally notable. Jared Preston (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as none of this is matching the needed substance for an article, it seems she's not particularly a major top player. SwisterTwister talk 19:19, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.