Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamal Gray
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. BD2412 T 01:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Per WP:BANDMEMBER, Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Extremely little coverage can be found to justify notability, except articles about his donation of 25,000$ and a strange biographical article/interview/financial advice piece [1] published by UBS. Broc (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Broc (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The articles about his donations are in reputable sources and speak to his notability as a member of The Roots, and the genre/format of the UBS article is not relevant to whether it counts as a source to establish notability. His notability comes from his being a member of The Roots and the sources confirm that. Hexatekin (talk) 03:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:BANDMEMBER, being a member of a notable band does not imply the subject has independent notability. Broc (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the BANDMEMBER policy. I still think there is more press on him, maybe in magazines. Will try to improve references. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, as an early and ongoing member of The Roots, I'd say he qualifies for these 2 for sure: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, or The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". Hexatekin (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Several notable band affiliations. Keystone18 (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the BANDMEMBER policy. I still think there is more press on him, maybe in magazines. Will try to improve references. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, as an early and ongoing member of The Roots, I'd say he qualifies for these 2 for sure: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, or The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". Hexatekin (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:BANDMEMBER, being a member of a notable band does not imply the subject has independent notability. Broc (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Per WP:MUSIC a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles is notable. Gray is a member of The Roots and The Tonight Show Band, both have WP articles. But he doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep. I found two more reliable secondary sources and added some details from them to the article. I agree that his notability comes from his membership in The Roots and he has been written about in reliable secondary sources. Nnev66 (talk) 19:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.