Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Sophus Jansen

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 16:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article, created in January 2011, is supposedly about the purported author and subject of the traditional song "Yon Yonson", known to many from its prominent use in Slaughterhouse-Five.[1][2] (Note: Yon Yonson is also the name of a popular 1890 stage play, a "dialect comedy" by Gus Heege; it's apparently unsettled whether the play is related to the song. [3]) Some original records are offered as proof that a man named Jan Sophus Jansen existed and lived in Berlin, Wisconsin, but as far as I can see none of the sources included in the article even purport to establish that this man had anything to with the song, and I couldn't find anything else about him. Unless better sources are identified, we have a possible hoax, and in any case there are insufficient reliable sources to establish the notability of this person. Arxiloxos (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:05, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete unless better sources can be provided (I looked, and couldn't find any, but maybe someone else will have better luck). The sources in the article right now are all primary and do nothing to establish his notability or support the claim that he wrote Yon Yonson. The only source I could find for the Yonson claim that wasn't a mirror or obviously sourced from Wikipedia was this, and I wouldn't put much stock in that. Sideways713 (talk) 16:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- this is not a blatant hoax, but I find no sources to confirm notability or his relationship to the song. The article history shows that this was written from genealogy records and it is probably a family story. (It's likely that a family member wrote it.) I briefly checked the other information with genealogy records and that appears to be correct. (There is an obit available for this person in a Wisconsin library, if anyone has access: [4]) But unless the claim about the song can be reliably sourced to this particular person, the article fails WP:BIO and WP:OR. CactusWriter (talk) 17:37, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No evidence of notability or that the most important claim in the article is even true. --Jersey92 (talk) 05:55, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.