Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Feminization (sociology)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Closing per agreement between filer (me) and the student's adviser that further work will be done. Nobody else has commented.. I hope there wasn't some formal requirement that somebody other than the filer close. Somebody had better tell me off if there was. Under the circumstances, I thought it reasonable to do it myself. Bishonen | talk 09:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
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The article seems to have been created by copypasting from academic sources in excellent English, combined with short presumably self-written bits in very poor English. Please look at this version, from before I started to remove copyvios and incoherence today. I gave up in frustration because I couldn't access the other sources, but I bet they've been used in the same way. Perhaps somebody who has access to Jstor could check out this, this, and this, to see if the relevant article sections have been lifted from them, as seems likely? The subject may be notable, but surely this article had better be deleted per WP:TNT and a new one written, if anybody's up for it. Bishonen | talk 11:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: There looks to only be two links posted, so I checked those. Offhand it doesn't look like there's anything closely paraphrased or outright taken from the articles from what I can see, but a second look from another person would definitely be a good idea. It looks like the copyvio was recently posted by a student in one of my WikiEd courses, so there should be a clean version to go back to with this edit. I agree that the topic looks like it should be notable and I think that doing a revdel of the edits back to the version I posted above would be the best option here. I'll send a version to the student and ask them to work on re-writing the content to remove the copyvio/plagiarism. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Shalor (Wiki Ed). You mean doing a revert to the version you suggest, rather than a revdel (revision deletion), I think? Good idea. I hope your student responds and gets on well with rewriting the article. It's not exactly only the copyvio/plagiarism (which needs to be rephrased in the student's own words) even though that is the most important thing, but there are also problems of coherence and grammar in the bits that aren't copyvio. Could you tell your student that as politely as possible, please — I have no tact. :-( I'm quite willing to revert the article as you suggest and withdraw this AfD, so the student doesn't have to work under the sword of Damocles. Would that be the best way of handling it, in your opinion? Bishonen | talk 23:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC).
- I was thinking of a revdel to be on the safe side, but I have no problem with just reverting the content since that would be easier for the student. I'll also approach them about the clarity of the content and offer my help with this process. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think it's reasonable to let the student have access to their own (and others') old revisions, as material to work with (well, they can do that provided they know how to use the history to see old revisions and comments). OK, I'll close this AfD, without prejudice to starting another one at some future date, and revert the article to this version. Happy editing, all. Bishonen | talk 09:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC).
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:03, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
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