Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ellie Cole
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Speedy keep it's clear an article about a medal-winning paralympian isn't going to be deleted any time soon. Thryduulf (talk) 02:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ellie Cole (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Have declined speedy as it is not an A7 candidate. So moved it into AFD. Concerns cited was WP:ATHLETE JForget 16:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete article should have been speedy as it fails wp:athlete. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - some coverage in reliable sources (see GoogleNews), but ultimately fails per WP:ATHLETE. -- Scjessey (talk) 16:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Query - why does this fail WP:ATHLETE? She has medals in paralympic games. Is there a reason I'm unaware of why this isn't the "highest amateur level of a sport"? There probbaly is, but I feel I should ask the question anyway. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep unless someone addresses Blue Square Thing's comments above. I would say Paralympics are the highest level at which a disabled athlete can compete Mr_pand [talk | contributions] 19:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. An athlete that wins two medals at the paralympics is clearly sufficiently notable for an article here. Tagging this as an A7 was utterly ridiculous.--Michig (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This was probably one of the more absurd speedy nominations and deserved to be rejected. WP:ATHLETE says "People who have competed at the highest amateur level of a sport, usually considered to mean the Olympic Games or World Championships." Now, the link to Olympic Games also includes Olympic_Games#Paralympics, so clearly, the paralympics aren't explicitly excluded. So let's cut the wikilawyering and apply some common sense and keep this, especially since deleting the bio of a three-medal winner at the Paralympics isn't going to improve the quality of this encyclopaedia. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 21:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep after clarification. Thanks. Blue Square Thing (talk) 00:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy keep - clearly notable as a medallist at the Paralympics. I am confident sources can be found. -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources exist in the article (including the Australian Sports Commission, Australian Govt), so apparently that isn't the point of concern. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 00:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ideally, I would want to see more independent sources that the ASC, who operate the AIS where Cole is/was an attendee. It's a good source but not fully independent. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs to the Beijing Paralympics page and ABC news also exist, so I don't believe verifiability is at stake. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy keep, she won 3 medals at the 2008 Paralympics, no doubt that she meets WP:ATHLETE, A new name 2008 (talk) 02:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.