Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dimitar Ivanov (footballer, born 1991)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Obvious GNG failure, there is clear consensus that players who at one point pass NFOOTY but who's careers then go backwards need to overtly show GNG. This player played in an FPL once. Fenix down (talk) 15:01, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Dimitar Ivanov (footballer, born 1991)

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While this article technically meets WP:NSPORT, I think falls under the section in the lede of the guideline which say: the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept (emphasis original). The entirety of this guy's footballing career consists of a single A PFG appearance five years ago, and there's not sign the article meets WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

• Keep - although it's only one appearance, he does pass WP:NFOOTBALL having played in a fully professional league. Other than that, there are no restrictions on the number of appearances that make a player notable. Kosack (talk) 08:56, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
• Delete - one appearance a number of years ago (to technically meet NFOOTY) is not enough when he comprehensively fails GNG. Some COMMONSENSE is needed here, and plenty of AFD precedent exists to say that barely passing NFOOTBALL is not enough when you fail GNG, see Oscar Otazu, Vyacheslav Seletskiy, Aleksandr Salimov, Andrei Semenchuk, Artyom Dubovsky, Cosmos Munegabe, Marios Antoniades, Scott Sinclair, Fredrik Hesselberg-Meyer, Matheus Eccard, Roland Szabó (2nd nomination), Metodija Stepanovski, Linas Klimavičius, Takumi Ogawa, Nicky Fish, Andrei Nițu, Daniel Oliveira Costa, Samuel Huber and Jordan Copp, amongst others. GiantSnowman 13:30, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. (t) Josve05a (c) 06:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. (t) Josve05a (c) 06:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. (t) Josve05a (c) 06:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

• Delete one appearance is just enough to suggest the individual probably has good sourcing, but we need to use common sense, and go with the lack of actual good sourcing and delete the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:20, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relist to see if WP:COMMONSENSE is actually as common as asserted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 04:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

• Reluctant Delete/Comment - although the subject of this article has made one appearance in a professional match, that was nearly five years ago and there is no sign of him making another one soon. Article pretty comprehensively fails WP:GNG with very little to none coverage. Also I would like to say that it was extremely difficult to find sources relating to this subject as "Dimitar Ivanov" is an extremely common name in Bulgaria with plenty of other footballers sharing this name. Although I am hesitant to go against WP:NFOOTBALL I think per GiantSnowman's comment that a delete would be most appropriate in this situation. Inter&anthro (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
• Keep Passes WP:NFOOTBALL as mentioned above. Notability is not temporary. Smartyllama (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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