Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craftsvilla

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 10:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Craftsvilla

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The article doesn't meet the notability criteria for inclusion as per WP:COMPANY. The sources are press releases such as reference #2 i.e. "Craftsvilla ropes in Manish Kalra from Amazon" returning same press releases[1]. Allahomora(talk) 14:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:45, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Craftsvilla ropes in Manish Kalra from Amazon - Livemint. – Note that this article is from the Press Trust of India, the largest news agency in India that was founded in 1947. It is not a press release from the company, and is the same type of content that news agencies such as the Associated Press publish. It is a reliable source.
  2. ^ Meet Craftsvilla founder Manoj Gupta - Times of India
  3. ^ Did all the things a startup shouldn’t do: Craftsvilla co-founder Manoj Gupta - The Economic Times
  4. ^ Lendingkart joins hands with Craftsvilla.com for loans to its sellers - The Economic Times
  5. ^ Poor and the deprived have a space in this Craftsvilla - The Economic Times
  6. ^ Why Flipkart, Craftsvilla and others are banking big on image search
  7. ^ My work with artisans led to Craftsvilla.com, says co-founder Monica Gupta - Firstpost
  8. ^ Craftsvilla expands reach to Middle East, New Zealand and Australia - Times of India
  • It seems the Press Trust of India might provides press release service[2]. All these sources are simply press-releases by the company. For example, take any sources such as this[3] Economic Times source which seems reliable but if you make a simple Google search on Google India with the news title i.e. "Lendingkart joins hands with Craftsvilla.com for loans to its sellers" you will get tons of these press-release from variety of sources[4]. Allahomora(talk) 17:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Press Trust of India notwithstanding, look closely and notice how in your example, though, that the only legitimate articles from the second link you post above are from the source itself, The Economic Times. The remainder are unreliable sources that have copied the content from the reliable source article, quite likely without permission. When unreliable sources copy content from reliable ones, that does not then render the reliable source as a press release or unreliable whatsoever. The same holds true for other sources I posted (see examples below). These are certainly not press releasees by the company. North America1000 07:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I know a third relist is unusual, and I know North America's presentation of sources was 11 days ago, but I'd still like to see those sources get better scrutiny before closing this. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The sources above are simply expected coverage and thus are solidly the expected better coverage that is needed. It's worth noting this is a common situation with these Indian companies, there's not always the sufficiently solid enough coverage. SwisterTwister talk 23:53, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I question whether or not you actually read the articles I posted, and "expected coverage" is quite ambiguous and subjective as a rationale for deletion of a Wikipedia article. Prior to the comment you posted above at 23:53 (diff), you provided an !vote at other discussions at 23:49 (diff) and 23:51 (diff). Did you actually open and read the articles I posted above in two or less minutes? Many of the articles I posted above provide quite detailed background, history and information about the company. North America1000 11:44, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 talk 23:04, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the situation with relists, I'm asking DGG for his analysis as I know he's always willing to help at troubled AfDs. SwisterTwister talk 05:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@SwisterTwister: Not to be brash, but when you ping specific editors who have not contributed to the article or discussion, it comes across as potential canvassing, particularly because you and DGG often share the same general and overall opinions about company articles, that many of them should be deleted. North America1000 06:03, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Check the records, When ST asks me for comment, I agree with his view only about half the time. I disagree 1/4,and have only a comment or not comment at all for the other 25%. DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Northamerica1000 I will be frank, if you have nothing but to criticize every single comment of mine with tossed comments, it's WP:HOUNDING. I ask you before to please distance yourself from me about that, and yet you have continued after I asked you to stop. As for pinging, I have by far explained this and have absolutely no need to explain again. SwisterTwister talk 07:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For the record and anyone else interested, I'll save DGG the moment to respond, he has explicitly mentioned he asks to be notified. SwisterTwister talk 08:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't aware that DGG asks to be pinged. Thanks for the clarification. North America1000 09:25, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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