Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/County Road 337 (Florida) (3rd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. I reviewed the article, the arguments and the previous AFD discussions. There has been no significant improvement to the article since the February 2009 AFD. There is simply nothing here to support notability. Suggestions to merge or redirect offer no substantive reason to do so as the prior existence as a state road is unproven. JodyB talk 15:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- County Road 336 (Florida) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)
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Non-notable county highway in Florida. References show that the highway exists, but don't explain how/why highway is important. –Fredddie™ 22:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete—these articles need to demonstrate why these roadway are notable, which they don't. County roads are generally not considered notable until proven otherwise. Neither of these are like County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan), which is the site of the first ever highway centerline in the nation from when it was part of M-15 (Michigan highway) or Brockway Mountain Drive which is a notable tourist destination in its own right. Imzadi 1979 → 23:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Does not establish notability, almost entirely primary sources / maps, no true secondary sources, except for a tourism board. Admrboltz (talk) 23:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - As a county route, CR 337 is not notable and should not have an individual article, but the route was likely a former state highway, which could give it premise for an article. Barring that, the route can be covered in List of county roads in Alachua County, Florida, List of county roads in Gilchrist County, Florida, and List of county roads in Levy County, Florida, with the county specific links redirected to the respective lists. The main "County Road 337 (Florida)" page can serve as a dab page to the CR 337 coverage in the three county lists. Dough4872 00:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: I find Dough's argument unpersuasive. None of the relevant policies or guidelines are served by wishful thinking as to whether a subject "might" be notable. Either CR 337 was a former state highway, in which case an argument for notability can be sustained, or it isn't, in which case it can't. There is no speculative middle ground; either the evidence is there or it isn't. It isn't. Ravenswing 16:09, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - If the proof cannot be found that CR 336 and CR 337 were former state highways, then the two articles can be redirected to the county route list as mentioned above. Dough4872 16:17, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep both - Since these roads transverse multiple counties, this makes it difficult to merge them into a list of roads in the particular counties, something I would have otherwise recommended. These articles do need to be expanded though, and there is probably information about them at the local libraries. Sebwite (talk) 21:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I having a problem accepting state roads as notable, what makes a county road even more notable. Secret account 22:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - As former state roads, they are notable. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 02:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The articles don't say that they are former state highways. Assuming that they were, the information could be merged to the appropriate state highway articles. Otherwise, given what's in the articles unless someone finds a source that says that "yes, these were state highways" they're un-notable county roads. Imzadi 1979 → 02:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- While this doesn't seem to be one of them, one trouble is that there's a number of "County Road xxx" pages for Florida roads, that are former state roads and were created as "Florida State Road xxx", that were moved to "County Road xxx" names. Making the whole thing a mess. :( [/Tangent]- The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 02:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable. Goethe State Forest is (barely) notable, but not the nearby road. Some roads are more than asphalt. This one isn't. Sven Manguard Talk 02:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete both. Existence is certainly a step on the way to having an article, but not by any means a sufficient one. Stifle (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.