Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Class 755

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The result was redirect‎ to British Rail Class 755 with a hatnote to Prussian G 8. Owen× ☎ 16:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Class 755

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After 2 reverts, I have decided to start a discussion on whether class 755 should redirect to British Rail Class 755. The reason is because of the fact most of them searching this term is likely looking for the one in the UK. the pageviews also give a picture, having received over 10x the number of views. The only other topic is Prussian G 8 which is not titled that way so that is why I agree and propose to replace this with a redirect and add a hatnote to the other. This is an example of WP:BLAR - blank and redirect, but others have opposed my change. JuniperChill (talk) 15:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. JuniperChill (talk) 15:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, the established convention has been that where there is one class of rolling stock, that Class xxx be set as a disambiguation page. While people will naturally think that the class in the their home country is the primary topic, Wikipedia has a global readership who may have differing opinions based on their geographic locations. Weshmakui (talk) 02:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

  I think this normally applies, but have you heard of 'primary topic' and WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT? There are3 only two articles where 'class 755' could be referred to and that I have provided the linked pageviews above. British Rail Class 755 has over 10x the number of views that the Prussian G 8 has. Many titles and abbreviations do not have a primary topic (where the disambiguation page has '(disambiguation)' in it) but this seems like an exception. And yes while Wikipedia does have people around the globe, articles can often have most of its views from one country/region. This is the case here since almost everyone that knows this type of train is from the UK. JuniperChill (talk) 09:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

  To add: Actually WikiNav is also useful because it shows that all of the pageviews goes to BR Class 755 JuniperChill (talk) 11:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. On the input side regardless of primary topic, WP:2DAB applies. On the output side, making primary topic available again. gidonb (talk) 14:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

  I proposed a redirect to British Rail Class 755 per WP:BLAR, not to delete the page. JuniperChill (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Since you also want this blanked, simplest is just to delete per above rationale. Next you can create a redirect as you wish. The disambiguation page is clearly unjustified, the rest is just editing. gidonb (talk) 14:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to British Rail Class 755 with a hatnote to Prussian G 8. WP:LOCALCONSENSUS does not override overall guidance for disambiguation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
• 'Redirect to British Rail Class 755, the very clear primary topic, with a hatnote to the WP:ONEOTHER meaning. Thryduulf (talk) 10:15, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to British Rail Class 755: and add a hatnote to the other train as the British trainset is the clear primary topic and a disambiguation page is unnecessary as per WP:ONEOTHER. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Redirect to British Rail Class 755 as a case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:ONEOTHER. S5A-0043^Talk 09:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.