Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chuck Smith (American football coach)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 23:21, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
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Altho a very accomplished high school coach, he doesn't meet WP:GNG or any WP:SNG John from Idegon (talk) 16:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete normally high school coaches aren't generating enough press to achieve WP:GNG or any other notability guideline. With such a common name as "Chuck Smith" it's difficult to find matches to articles using traditional online searches. I am unable to find anything pointing toward notability at this time, but if such articles were presented I would certainly change my position.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:23, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Smith was recognized as a "Coach of the Year" in Kentucky on multiple occasions by multiple media organizations including the Associated Press, Louisville Courier-Journal, and the National Federation of State High School Associations. He is a future KHSAA (member association of the NFHS) Hall of Famer and one of the most successful coaches in the history of Kentucky. He was the first coach to accomplish winning 5 consecutive state championships, and he was a NCAA player and assistant coach at the University of Kentucky. He has links to the NFL as the former positional coach of 3 current NFL players. WildManKY (talk) 17:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- I have no disrespect for the coach, but that (at least in my view) does not meet the threhhold of notability for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Perhaps an online sports almanac or another venue? Try another wiki. And if he generates enough press to surpass WP:GNG, bring it back! -- Again, if you have links to news articles, please post them. I'll change my position if warranted.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- He could fall within WP:NCOLLATH as a "well-known assistant coach" who won an award presented by a national organization (NFHS) or as WP:NHSPHSATH as someone who has "received, as individuals, substantial and prolonged coverage that is (1) independent of the subject and (2) clearly goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage." I feel the USAToday validation of his achievements extends beyond local coverage because it does not specifically cover Kentucky high school sports. WildManKY (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Typically college assistant coaches are considered not notable, although there are exceptions through WP:GNG.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- He could fall within WP:NCOLLATH as a "well-known assistant coach" who won an award presented by a national organization (NFHS) or as WP:NHSPHSATH as someone who has "received, as individuals, substantial and prolonged coverage that is (1) independent of the subject and (2) clearly goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage." I feel the USAToday validation of his achievements extends beyond local coverage because it does not specifically cover Kentucky high school sports. WildManKY (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- I have no disrespect for the coach, but that (at least in my view) does not meet the threhhold of notability for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Perhaps an online sports almanac or another venue? Try another wiki. And if he generates enough press to surpass WP:GNG, bring it back! -- Again, if you have links to news articles, please post them. I'll change my position if warranted.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Once you discount the prep sports sources as routine, he clearly fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer talk 21:07, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree that the Louisville Courier-Journal and the Lexington Herald-Leader (Kentucky.com), the two largest newspapers in Kentucky, an ABC affiliate (WTVQ), an NBC affiliate (LEX18), USAToday, and his NCAA coaching profile are merely "prep sports sources". WildManKY (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree with you. The Rivals article is a routine sports transactional article and arguably not independent. The only other article that doesn't discuss him in the prep sports context is the lex18.com article. The largest papers in any U.S. state will cover prep sports thoroughly. SportingFlyer talk 01:34, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree that the Louisville Courier-Journal and the Lexington Herald-Leader (Kentucky.com), the two largest newspapers in Kentucky, an ABC affiliate (WTVQ), an NBC affiliate (LEX18), USAToday, and his NCAA coaching profile are merely "prep sports sources". WildManKY (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.