Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Jarvis (cricketer)

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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 22:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Charles Jarvis (cricketer)

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This article about a cricketer born in the 1790s has no evidence of notability-it says he only played one match in his career and there is only one source. –Cupper52^Discuss! 21:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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• Weak Keep Added a few more refs. In 1826 there was only 7 first class matches played so not much chance of actually playing many games. Nottingham CC have him down as one of their History makers. It's pre Wisden and coverage of sport in newspapers was non exsistant, but as an early player I think there is a case for him to be notable.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 10:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Keep. A historically important person in the early organisation cricket in Nottinghamshire, a leading figure in the Nottingham Cricket Club (the forerunner of the current Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club). In many regards, he's like Paul Foley in his importance to a specific county. StickyWicket (talk) 12:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Such a claim requires reliable sources to have any weight. Please present them or (better) expand the article. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 14:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Redirect to List of Nottingham Cricket Club players. Notts have an excellent set of sources on players at this link, which includes a number of Nottingham players. It's really helpful in determining the relative importance of players and their histories. Jarvis' brother, George, was clearly much more notable (and his article needs more work). Charles, however, we know very little about - compare the two Notts summaries of Charles and George. I think it's reasonable to suggest that George is historically important in terms of the development of Nottinghamshire cricket (although I'm not sure it's entirely clear compared to other players from the same era fwiw); I'm utterly unconvinced that Charles is. The table at the list article pretty succinctly summarises Charles; I'm unsure what else we can really add to that if I'm honest. Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Delete or merge/redirect to List of Nottingham Cricket Club players or George Jarvis (cricketer). Trivially passes NCRIC, which by consensus is an extremely weak guideline, but fails all meaningful criteria for a standalone article, including GNG. No substantial independent non-database sources. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:34, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Delete clearly not enough sourcing to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vaticidalprophet (talk) 05:19, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

• Keep per Davidstewartharvey's rationale. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 10:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HistoricalAccountings (talk) 16:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

• Redirect to List of Nottingham Cricket Club players as a plausible search term. As much as we say thinks like "he is notable" does not meet WP:GNG which is our minimum standards ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 23:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.