Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Olimar
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus, but a merge may be in order. There is a tie vote between "keep" and "merge and/or redirect". Please settle this question on the article's talk page. -- BD2412 talk 19:25, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Content redundant with Pikmin series, Merge into Pikmin series. Nifboy 6 July 2005 03:37 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect. VfDing something if you just want to merge it is unneccessary. — Gwalla | Talk 6 July 2005 03:51 (UTC)
- My bad (it's just that I see a lot of stuff on VfD that's "Merge and Redirect" so I assumed this was the place to get a concensus). I have since done similar redirects with Hocotate and Hocotate Freight Company. Nifboy 6 July 2005 05:27 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pikmin series. JamesBurns 6 July 2005 07:27 (UTC)
- Redirect -- --SockpuppetSamuelson 6 July 2005 09:36 (UTC)
- Keep. Thing is, both installments, IIRC, have hit one million copies sold. And with a sequel coming out, and a rumored DS sequel along the way, I have to believe that the character is notable. Throw in some of his personality, and you have a very notable article. -- A Link to the Past July 7, 2005 05:48 (UTC)
- Keep - Derktar July 7, 2005 18:42 (UTC).
- Keep - Pikmin is a series Nintendo would seem to have big plans for. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 2005 July 8 05:45 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect. "Notable character in a popular series" does not mean that the character could have enough written about him to merit branching off a separate article. -Sean Curtin July 9, 2005 03:03 (UTC)
- But you're only ASSUMING that it cannot have enough extra stuff written. With Wikipedia, you give an article the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not with one silly article, but when it's about the star of a multi-million dollar franchise, you don't even seem to be BOTHERING to give it a chance to improve. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 03:33 (UTC)
- There, I've improved it, adding several bits of information that, if you were speaking the truth, couldn't have been added, because there would be nothing to add. But then, I showed that there was. And with the upcomming Pikmin 3 game, even MORE information will be added. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 03:53 (UTC)
- All you did was give a synopsis of Pikmin 1 and 2, as well as mention a future game (all of which is more relevant on the Pikmin Series page), and mention the SSBM trophy (which is fairly trivial, given there are hundreds of trophies). All information on Olimar should go on the Pikmin series page. IF and WHEN there has been enough written about him to justify splitting it off, then we should make Characters of Pikmin. If there's enough written about Olimar himself to justify splitting him off from that, then he can get his own article. Nifboy 9 July 2005 04:05 (UTC)
- There IS enough information, if you had ever read the logs. It delves in on his personality. For one, SSBM was always there. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 may tell the plot, but they ARE the plot. The character has a wife as well, which is not mentioned in the Article. If that's not mentioned, imagine how much else isn't. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 04:21 (UTC)
- I still stand by my previous statement. If and when enough information is written about him (as in, on Wiki) then we can split pages off of the Pikmin series page. Nifboy 9 July 2005 04:38 (UTC)
- For one, there IS enough content on him. Several paragraphs on the star of a million-dollar franchise WITH plenty of content to add onto the article is no grounds for deletion! You're basically saying that a character IS well-known, popular, notable and has enough content, but should be removed until the content is added. As long as it is known that the content is coming, there should be zilch for a problem. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 04:49 (UTC)
- And, like I said, almost all of what is actually there is a repeat of what's on Pikmin series. There's no reason to have two pages with the exact same content. Nifboy 9 July 2005 08:12 (UTC)
- Then delete Pikmin series' content. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 08:23 (UTC)
- And, like I said, almost all of what is actually there is a repeat of what's on Pikmin series. There's no reason to have two pages with the exact same content. Nifboy 9 July 2005 08:12 (UTC)
- For one, there IS enough content on him. Several paragraphs on the star of a million-dollar franchise WITH plenty of content to add onto the article is no grounds for deletion! You're basically saying that a character IS well-known, popular, notable and has enough content, but should be removed until the content is added. As long as it is known that the content is coming, there should be zilch for a problem. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 04:49 (UTC)
- I still stand by my previous statement. If and when enough information is written about him (as in, on Wiki) then we can split pages off of the Pikmin series page. Nifboy 9 July 2005 04:38 (UTC)
- There IS enough information, if you had ever read the logs. It delves in on his personality. For one, SSBM was always there. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 may tell the plot, but they ARE the plot. The character has a wife as well, which is not mentioned in the Article. If that's not mentioned, imagine how much else isn't. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 04:21 (UTC)
- All you did was give a synopsis of Pikmin 1 and 2, as well as mention a future game (all of which is more relevant on the Pikmin Series page), and mention the SSBM trophy (which is fairly trivial, given there are hundreds of trophies). All information on Olimar should go on the Pikmin series page. IF and WHEN there has been enough written about him to justify splitting it off, then we should make Characters of Pikmin. If there's enough written about Olimar himself to justify splitting him off from that, then he can get his own article. Nifboy 9 July 2005 04:05 (UTC)
- Keep. It looks like an okay page. Sandy M 9 July 2005 08:57 (UTC)
- Redirect. -R. fiend 9 July 2005 15:42 (UTC)
- I don't really see what everyone's problem is with this. It's pretty well-writen, it's accurate, it's formatted, it has several paragraphs of information, and there's plenty of information that can be added to this. And if you say that we can't use log books, a lot of other famous characters use stuff that's not even in the games. Even Nifboy conceded that Olimar may have enough content to be his own page, but we should 'delete it until he does'. You know what? Why don't we delete that single paragraph of plot in Pikmin series? Then there'd be no need to merge, delete or redirect, because there's no duplicate information. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 18:47 (UTC)
- And to debunk the idea that it's not good Wiki to describe the storyline that surrounds them, look at Link. His article has a large section about the story for each game! And that's a featured article, too. I don't see why telling the plot of Olimar's or Link's games is bad; the games are ABOUT them. -- A Link to the Past July 9, 2005 18:57 (UTC)
- Keep. This page is very useful and informative and it is ridicuous to merge this page with the Pikmin series because of the content, while admittedly sharing info with the Pikmin series, is enough to stand on its own. -- Cvxfreak 9 July 2005 19:19 (UTC)
- I don't think the Olimar article has a whole lot of depth outside of the Pikmin series, but that can be fixed. Keep for now. Andre (talk) 20:13, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.