Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bynner Street station

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Green Line E branch. Sandstein 10:26, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bynner Street station

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While there has been significant debate on whether certain light rail and streetcar stops are notable (I've voted keep on most), these stops are unquestionably non-notable by any standard. Because of how long ago they were closed (1985), there's no information available about the individual stops; the collective history is better discussed on the article about the line. The stops were only marked by yellow bands on a pole; there's no infrastructure to discuss.

Aside from notability and lack of content, there's also a lack of evidence that these were the actual identities of the stops on the 1985-closed section of the line. The articles were based on this 1990s map showing the then-planned restoration of the closed section. However, the 2001 environmental documentation (page 13) shows a different set of proposed stops, and an (unfortunately offline) 1972 map in my collection shows a different set of pre-1985 stops. So tl;dr: there isn't even a reliable source to verify that these exact stop names actually existed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep All: While my anecdotal evidence as a user of the line in my college days at Northeastern of course doesn't matter, the MBTA station map is certainly a reliable source. That it's not the same station list as existed in 1972 or mooted in 2001 is irrelevant -- the MBTA both eliminated and added many stations in that time, and there are more changes yet to come. Notability is not temporary. Ravenswing 02:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Ravenswing: My point with the stop listings is that there is so little reliable information available that we can't even be sure that these were the actual stop locations, much less write even a worthwhile stub article. Those stop names were only ever used on that single map, almost two decades after the line closed; no other maps show them. It's not clear whether it's showing the former stops, or proposed restored stops. (Evergreen Street and Bynner Street are less than 250 feet apart - substantially closer than any 1972 or 2020 stops - which casts further doubt on the accuracy of that map.) Compare this to the 1980s-closed stations on the B, C, and inner E branches (non-notable, but verifiable from multiple reliable sources - you may recall some of those E stops) and 2004-closed Fordham Road station (where there's enough information available to write a three-paragraph stub). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, text is nearly identical across these articles and would be much better presented in the line's article. — C16SH (speak up) 03:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • redirect all to Green Line "E" branch or delete There is no information in these articles which isn't just pulled out from the list of stops, and while I wouldn't object to outright deletion, that list is an obvious redirect target. Mangoe (talk) 20:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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