Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigzzad

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Deleted as G5. The keep !voters are banned. (non-admin closure) —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 09:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Bigzzad

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csd got declined for this stating doesn't meets A7, The Article doesn't have a single strong ref which can be considered as RS. all the refs are from social media or PR agency and IMDB. Dtt1^Talk 15:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Dtt1^Talk 15:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Dtt1^Talk 15:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Dtt1^Talk 15:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom, non-notable. Hughesdarren (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete does not meet any of the notability criteria for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - It is possible that we are missing sources in his nation's language, in which case we would have to search under the native spelling of his name, but robust media coverage for an Iranian rock musician will be slight anyway due to the regime's control. Good luck to this guy as he gives it a go, but so far he is only present in typical streaming, social media, and self-promotional sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 00:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
• Keep As metal music is ban in Iran. Iran artists don't get easily popularity and more online visibility as an English and USA artist get. But in Inspite of that Bigzzad is featured on many popular websites and IMDB itself. My request to admin is to please have a look at the online visibility and internet productivity of Iran to make a decision. Although, previously admin rejected the deletion criteria of the editor. Don't sure why the same editor nominated it again inspite of aceepting the admin decision. Laispike (talk) 12:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

  Admins have no power here. The decision will be made by the consensus of editors taking part in this discussion. Also, I declined the WP:A7 speedy deletion request, which only means the article did not qualify under that very strict criterion. My decline in no way meant that the article should be kept, just that it would need a deletion discussion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

• Keep - He clearly fulfills WP:SINGER, he has been mentioned significantly in IMDb, an independent, non-self published reliable source, he has released three albums, he has gained considerable popularity in his country and won some major awards in music as well.TheIraqiAmericanYXT (talk) 13:19, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

  IMDb is not a reliable source, as it is user-generated. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

• Comment - The two "keep" votes above illustrate a point made in my own delete vote, and are from people who seem unfamiliar with Wikipedia's policies on reliable sources and notability for musicians. Lately there have been several deletion discussions for Iranian musicians, most of which had somebody claiming that coverage of those musicians is suppressed in that country's media so they are dependent on self-created promotional and social media sites. See for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ava Bahram. I have no doubt that the musicians face this unfair challenge, but it is much bigger than Wikipedia and this is not the place to try to fix it. Though I wish all of them luck, promoting unlucky entertainers is not one of Wikipedia's functions. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

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