Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baby Shark Live!

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The result was redirect to Baby Shark. (non-admin closure) Vaticidalprophet (talk) 20:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Baby Shark Live!

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This article is about a series of live shows built around the popular “Baby Shark” song. It’s based on the brand’s own website and PR supporting forthcoming performances around the world. I don’t see anything to indicate in depth coverage in RIS so this looks like a candidate for deletion or possibly a merge/redirect to Baby Shark. Mccapra (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• Redirect to Baby Shark.

–Cupper52^Discuss! 13:17, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• Redirect to Baby Shark, an article which we kept in part because I did the hard work to show the a bit more of the long history of that song dating back decades, and that it is more than just a recent phenomenon, even if in the pre-YoutTube era children's songs, especially ones that show up at camps, are much harder to see showing up in sources, but the evidence is there for its use decades ago.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
• Redirect to Baby Shark per above. JayJay^{What did I do?} 23:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment on possible Concert Notability. Aside from the mention of any 2017 Seoul musical tour in the article, that I have not researched much, the named Baby Shark Live! musical tour seems to have started in the fall of 2019, in coordination between Pinkfong and Round Room Live. This article lacks much history and background of the production, and more might be found in these additional sources: Good Housekeeping (July 2019) [1], Billboard (July 2019) [2], Los Angeles Times (October 2019) [3], CNN (October 2019) [4] and substantial information from The New York Times (November 2019) [5].

Reviews can be found at: Los Angeles Times (October 2019) [6], Yahoo!/Parents (November 2019) [7] [8], Vulture (November 2019), The New Yorker (November 2019), [9], and The Pitch (May 2020) [10].

Unfortunately, the tour opening just prior to COVID-19 (alas for all the arts!) paused any continuation, per Baby Shark Live! official website.

I am willing to start adding more information from the above citations to try to fulfill notability, if suitable for a reassessment. If it looks like a lost cause, let me know before I spend much time on it.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 03:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment thanks for finding these. Many of the links you’ve posted are to more stories based on press releases. However the review pieces you’ve shared do change the picture and I think if there are more of them then notability would be established. Mccapra (talk) 10:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Along with the five reviews listed above, I should have added a sixth review of the tour's premiere night found in the motherlode article, also listed above, in The New York Times (November 2019) [11], that includes an interview with the producers and comprehensive background material. In addition, please see a newly found article with a phone interview of one of the show's producers at Los Angeles Daily News (March 2020) [12].

And these two articles, Yonhap News Agency (March 2020) [13] and JoongAng Ilbo (November 2020) [14] provide an audience count of 93,000 for 33 fall 2019 North American shows, prior to the 2020 spring cancellation of most of the 100 remaining shows, due to Covid. I also found two articles providing some history of the older and unrelated Pinkfong Baby Shark concert performances in Asia, presently mentioned in the article: Maeil Business Newspaper (May 2017) [15] and Korea Economic Daily (August 2018) [16].

Again, I will start to update the article, but wanted to double-check on how much is going to authenticate it, before doing more work.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 16:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

• Redirect. Can be spun out if it ever has substantial independent coverage that a capsule summary in the underlying Baby Shark article cannot contain. Cool Hand Luke 17:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.