Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angie Bolen

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The result was keep. MuZemike 22:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Angie Bolen

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A character that will appear in the future. We don't know anything about the contract. Probably will be a recurring character like some last season for which we didn't have enough feedback to create separate articles. Plus, there isn't enough context, it's unreferenced (i'm only assuming that this character will really appear -last year they changed the name of a character as far as i remember), wikipedia is not a CRYSTALBALL, etc. Magioladitis (talk) 06:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Keep. The season premiere is only a short time away; the key information has been confirmed by the creator of the show about a week ago (so I added it to the article); and even though the article is lousy, deleting it will just result in two weeks of minor drama as the article is recreated and rechallenged, until the show airs and there'll be a consensus to keep it in some form. The odds are that TV Guide's returning-show roundup will fill in enough gaps to settle the question anyway, and that will have hit the racks before this AFD discussion ends. Not worth the trouble. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Agree with you Wolfowitz. And ofcourse until the first show is aired there is a low interest for the new characters article. But as season6 progresses we will see that Angie Bolens article will grow and it will soon be a wikipedia worthy article even in written form so to say.--Judo112 (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Delete per WP:CRYSTALBALL. The character right now has no notability at all. --LoЯd ۞pεth 22:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment No characters of seasons 3, 4 or 5 managed to establish their own article because of lack of noteworthy material. Only exception Katherine Mayfair whose article consists of plot only. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• Merge with Desperate Housewives (season 6) for time being. There aren't enough sources out there to confirm notability today, but there may be by the mid/end of the season. Joshdboz (talk) 11:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

"Maybe in the future". That's exactly CRYSTALBALL. If we allow this, we can also allow articles about amatour football players because maybe in the future they become professionals. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

This article shouldnt have been put up for Afd until after september 27, until then this current Afd discussion will only be full of claims from both sides. How can anyone really tell if this Angie Bolen will be a major character or not. Neither side has hard proof of it,it seems. Had we just waited until after september 27, this Afd discussion would have been mutch easier to handle and mutch more clear cut. For me this situation can only be resolved in a kept article on Bolen for new possible evaluation on possible Afd nomination after 2-3 episodes into season 6 of DH.--Judo112 (talk) 12:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

• Delete: Articles for fictional characters are usually dubious at best. There are already dozens of DH related pages, with more being added; I'm sure anything worthwhile to say about this character can be added to them.--RDBury (talk) 07:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
• Strong Keep deleting an article on a soon Desperate Housewives regular character is neither good or productive. And it will only be re-written after the september 27 premiere. It seems to me that Angie will be a regular and will probably stay for more than one season soon getting Susan Mayer status for example as a wikipedia article.--Judo112 (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Its not a correct claim from the nominator that Angie probably will be a recurring character, it has been confirmed long ago that she will be a DH regular and will appear in the first episode (also confirmed on the characters own article) and will have the same status as Susan Mayer or Bree Hodge when it comes to Wikipedia articles on fictional characters. So to delete it will only be a waste of time because it will be re-written ASAP after september 27.--Judo112 (talk) 15:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

There are other regular characters on the show that don't have an article. (For example Nick Bolen, Julie Mayer, Porter Scavo). The criterion (not that I agree with it) seems to be that only one of the dozen or so main characters is notable enough for their own page and the rest are listed in in the List of Characters page or one of the Acquaintances of ... pages.--RDBury (talk) 20:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Neither Porter Scavo, or Julie Mayer has had major parts on the show even tough they where regulars at one point or another. Characters like Susan Mayer, Carlos Solis or Bree Hodge that is DH main characters that appear in almost every episode are regular characters that deserves individual Wikipedia articles. Angie Bolen will be as i have understood it one of the DH on the show and will be a series regular.. which indicates that she will have a major part in season6 that will go on for season 7etc etc..---Judo112 (talk) 12:14, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

• Keep - Sources exist.[1] There's enough for a small articles now, and they're will be more when the season starts. Meets NOTE. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 01:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

This is a obivous Keep article for me. One that will have to be re-written after september 27 anyway if deleted. Already established regular character that will have a mjaor part in seaosn 6 and onwards probably.--Judo112 (talk) 12:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't you say the same exactly one year ago for Jackson Hart? You are not sure if the character gets a major role neither. You just wrote "probably" -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:19, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I have never written anything about Jackson Hart:).--Judo112 (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

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