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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Duplicate topic of Subtitle (titling). — Moriwen (talk) 17:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Merge to Subtitle (titling) - the information in the 3rd paragraph is not in that article and it is a nice bit of book history. Also, a redirect from Alternate title to Subtitle would be useful. Lamona (talk) 02:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is this the same thing as subtitling? This appears to me to be discussing a distinct if similar phenomenon. A merge might be OK anyway though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I had the same thought, but the "OR" titles are covered in Subtitle (titling). I checked for definitions in "Genette, G. (1997). Paratexts : thresholds of interpretation. Cambridge University Press" (a key work on the various parts of books), but may have missed it because the index of that book is (ironically!) very bad. I did find one source in G books that makes the distinction between alternate and sub-title. The problem is that the Subtitle (titling) article would need to be re-written and that article is a mess and lacks sources. Maybe it's best to leave this one as is and consider it more authoritative than the sentences about "OR" titles in the Subtitle (titling) article. I'll think on that. Lamona (talk) 17:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lamona Fair enough, I support a merge. It seems a distinct though highly overlapping topic, so it's probably for the best. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind either merge or keep. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lamona Fair enough, I support a merge. It seems a distinct though highly overlapping topic, so it's probably for the best. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I had the same thought, but the "OR" titles are covered in Subtitle (titling). I checked for definitions in "Genette, G. (1997). Paratexts : thresholds of interpretation. Cambridge University Press" (a key work on the various parts of books), but may have missed it because the index of that book is (ironically!) very bad. I did find one source in G books that makes the distinction between alternate and sub-title. The problem is that the Subtitle (titling) article would need to be re-written and that article is a mess and lacks sources. Maybe it's best to leave this one as is and consider it more authoritative than the sentences about "OR" titles in the Subtitle (titling) article. I'll think on that. Lamona (talk) 17:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep After PARAKANYAA's comment I decided to reconsider. I conclude now that the Subtitle (titling) article is wrong to include alternate titles (especially to the extent that it does). I found additional sources for this article that define the difference between subtitles and alternate titles, but have not yet found any to verify the statement that use of alternate titles declined in the 19th century. I will keep looking for that. Lamona (talk) 02:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per PARAKANYAA's comments. Seems like a valid, notable article.--SouthernNights (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.