Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Draghici

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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 15:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Alexander Draghici

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Non Notable LightiningShadow (talk) 16:42, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep Very famous Film Producer Alwayssmileguys (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

• Comment This nomination is completely too soon. What happened to the ideology of allowing an article on Wikipedia to grow? Is one now required to write a completed thesis type article? If this is the new construct of Wikipedia then Wikipedia needs to clearly state these new rules to everyone here! --MurderByDeadcopy^"bang!" 20:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Musa Talk  22:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Musa Talk  22:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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• Delete Not enough coverage in independent, reliable sources to verify or sustian article. Fails Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines, WP:BASIC and WP:CREATIVE. I can find nothing beyond some social media items and stuff from his web site, some quotes/passing mention. Jbh^Talk 16:37, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
• Comment I have added more details which adds to the point that, he is a notable Producer. You might not be aware of American movie Producers. He is well known Producer. Alwayssmileguys (talk) 08:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

This person produced a film that won the Burbank Film Festival, so what?? There is absolutely no coverage about him and a half dozen mentions, in the context of discussing the film, that he was the producer does not come even close to passing WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. If he gets some significant coverage discussing him then there can be a Wikipedia article about him. Jbh^Talk 11:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Delete Marginally notable at best, but does not get any mentions in the NYT which is a pretty good indicator of international notability. Collect (talk) 13:56, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Added many relevant links. He is the VP of Soba Rehabilation center and is featured in Fox news. I have added the link. And May i Know how user Collect got the idea that one need to be featured in NYT to be notable. ? Here is link about SOBA which he cofounded - in NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/fashion/an-intervention-for-malibu.html?_r=0 Alwayssmileguys (talk) 14:11, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Reply I have one of the higher "keep" percentages at AfD. Mainly because I tend to be on the lookout in favour of those who are actually notable. (45% Keep, 44% Delete, 8% Merge or Redirect, 3% Userfy) An appearance on Fox News, if it were sufficient to prove notability, would double the size of Wikipedia <g>. And a ref to SOBA where Draghici is not named at all is not a sign of his notability at all. Again - I fight to Keep articles on notable persons, but when my search yields nada, I can not look other that at Delete. Collect (talk) 14:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Actually it does appear to pass WP:ARTIST based on the fact that WP:ARTIST states, The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. But, hey, I'm still baffled by this bizarre, dogmatic, biased hated of artists that Wikipedia seems so incessant on embracing! --MurderByDeadcopy^"bang!" 21:25, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• If Wikipedia seems set against artist bios, it's because they're so often promotional and/or autobiographical. Wikipedia doesn't need to be a directory of every person who's ever been involved in making a movie or had their art displayed in a gallery. That said, can you show how this passes WP:ARTIST? I'm not seeing much in the citations beyond mentions. clpo13_(talk) 21:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Again, it is oddly strange, to me, that artists on Wikipedia have been given this money-grubbing persona when pretty much everywhere else they're known as starving artist! What Wikipedia doesn't appear to mind? Law firms[1], entrepreneurs[2], management consulting firms[3], etcetera. Yep, nothing promotional about those individuals. (Not to mention that they are the ones most likely to hire someone to write their Wikipedia page.) But, then, this is the site that lists more video games from 2006 (or 2007 or 2008 or 2009) than contemporary artists! --MurderByDeadcopy^"bang!" 01:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

• 25 citations and all that can be said is he produced some movies and one won an award (14 citations for that)??!!?? No, based on the material provided, this person is not "regarded as an important figure...". If he were there would be references talking about him and saying why/how he is important/influential. Since there are not, and we have enough references mentioning his name which would discuss him in greater depth if he were important or influential, we can safely say he is not. Q.E.D. Jbh^Talk 21:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Delete - I went through the sources and found lots of biographical ephemera, but little substance. They consist largely of cruft (directory entries, photographs and the like) or passing mentions of varying credibility (from blogs to local news reports). One thing is sure: the "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject" demanded by WP:BASIC isn't there. - Biruitorul ^Talk 17:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Using the word cruft is a huge insult to the creator of this article and should never be used within the context of any AfD! Also, the only sure thing about Wikipedia, is it is unsure of absolutely everything!!! WP:IAR --MurderByDeadcopy^"bang!" 20:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

• Delete - Not enough to support the bio. Usterday (talk) 18:20, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
• Delete. The most significant accomplishment, the Burbank award is not as significant as it looks. There were 6 different films that received a Best Feature award at that festival that year. And there's no consensus that an award there is suignifiicant for notability at all-most films that have won prizes there do not have articles--including this film. DGG ( talk ) 20:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
• Delete as there's simply hardly much for more of an article and is best restarted when better is available so feel welcome to draft and userfy if needed. SwisterTwister talk 20:55, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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