Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aleksandra Albu
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 08:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
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Non-notable MMA fighter. Only one top tier fight so definitely does not meet WP:NMMA and actually has only 2 professional bouts. Not nearly enough history to suggest anything lasting. Does not meet WP:GNG either. Peter Rehse (talk) 11:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete but very promising that she was accepted into the UFC and won her first match with such a short professional career. I imagine she will meet WP:NMMA soon so re-creation at the time and WP:REFUND should be indiscriminately available. Mkdwtalk 22:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I wouldn't have put her up for AfD yet. It's true she doesn't meet WP:NMMA, but having won her first UFC fight she's very likely to get at least two more which would allow her to meet NMMA. At this time, her coverage falls under routine sports reporting, so if I had to vote it would be for delete or userfy. Papaursa (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- I sat on this for awhile trying to decide whether or not I wanted/should bring this to AfD. You should be able to avoid AfD with two top tier fights if one is win on the assumption that the third is probably on its way - but signing with the UFC or having a single fight means that meeting the conditions is just too far in the future. Still what decided this was the almost total lack of professional fights (2) which does not demonstrate the staying power to make three fights certain. There is also the lack of coverage which is what really determines notability.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Based on observing the UFC's actions, they seem to always keep a fighter who wins one of their first 2 fights, and sometimes even if they lose both. That said, fighters do get injured or quit so it's certainly not guaranteed she'll get 3 top tier fights. That's why I wouldn't vote to keep this article at this time and have elected to sit this one out. Papaursa (talk) 19:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. We can't crystal ball her career and it's not a guarantee, no matter how likely, that she will shortly meet the criteria. We have WP:REFUND available in this scenario. If exceptions are made now then it sets a precedent. Mkdwtalk 02:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- I will admit that setting a precedence is a consideration for me also.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. We can't crystal ball her career and it's not a guarantee, no matter how likely, that she will shortly meet the criteria. We have WP:REFUND available in this scenario. If exceptions are made now then it sets a precedent. Mkdwtalk 02:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- Based on observing the UFC's actions, they seem to always keep a fighter who wins one of their first 2 fights, and sometimes even if they lose both. That said, fighters do get injured or quit so it's certainly not guaranteed she'll get 3 top tier fights. That's why I wouldn't vote to keep this article at this time and have elected to sit this one out. Papaursa (talk) 19:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- I sat on this for awhile trying to decide whether or not I wanted/should bring this to AfD. You should be able to avoid AfD with two top tier fights if one is win on the assumption that the third is probably on its way - but signing with the UFC or having a single fight means that meeting the conditions is just too far in the future. Still what decided this was the almost total lack of professional fights (2) which does not demonstrate the staying power to make three fights certain. There is also the lack of coverage which is what really determines notability.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete Doesn't meet WP:NMMA and the coverage is just routine sports reporting, which isn't enough to meet WP:GNG. No objections to recreating this as soon as she meets WP:NMMA. Mdtemp (talk) 19:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom and Mdtemp Doublefrog (talk) 06:03, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
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