Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abstract differential geometry

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Abstract differential geometry

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WP:OR: All this stub is based on 4 primary sources that have the same first author

WP:ORPHAN: All incoming links from the main space are in "See also" sections or in a stand-alone list. Apparrently, the only reason of these links is de-orphanization. D.Lazard (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mathematics-related deletion discussions. D.Lazard (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

I would lightly support deletion. On Google Scholar, the "Geometry of vector sheaves" book has been cited 137 times, although the majority appear to be self-citations or citations of the form "for work on this related topic, see the book Geometry of vector sheaves". As far as I can tell (but without confidence), the topic is not of major research interest. Gumshoe2 (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

In other words, you did not find any reliable WP:secondary source that discusses the subject. D.Lazard (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't want to say anything definitive yet, but a first pass through the citations to both books has an anomalously high level of dubious sources: MDPI journals, unreviewed preprints, etc. In any case, this stub has been functionally abandoned since 2009, and the creator has not edited since 2010, so working on it doesn't seem to be anyone's top priority. XOR'easter (talk) 17:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete This looks like a real topic, with publications over decades. But as far as I can tell, all the work I've seen comprises primary sources, or secondary sources written by the primary authors. As far as I can tell there are no in-depth independent reliable sources for the topic, so an article would need original research to construct it. Hence delete, but happy to reconsider if substantial independent sources are found. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 18:01, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Mild support of deletion. From what I've seen, this subject is decades away from being ready for a Wikipedia article. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 14:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete or light merge: In the current state, it doesn’t pass the notability. Also, 1998 is too recent in mathematics and I couldn’t find any evidence that this is a very active research topic (if active, 1998 is still ok). It’s a bit unfortunate since the idea seems interesting. In fact, the abstract [1] mentions the sheaf-theoretic aspect and that’s not new and so maybe it is possible to mention the book in some way in some other articles; basically, there are many approaches to differential geometry and there might be a way to mention the book, although we need to assess the significance of the work. —- Taku (talk) 05:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per Mark viking. XOR'easter (talk) 01:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete The book is cited a rather small number of times by a small circle of researchers (according to zbmath). The idea of using sheaf theory as a foundation for differential geometry is also hardly original (as the article seems to imply): for instance there are two mathoverflow threads on the subject, one where this book is not even mentioned (https://mathoverflow.net/questions/17545/sheaves-and-bundles-in-differential-geometry) and the other where it appears pretty marginally (https://mathoverflow.net/questions/14877/how-much-of-differential-geometry-can-be-developed-entirely-without-atlases). jraimbau (talk) 08:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - this is really close to original research, and we don’t do WP:OR. Bearian (talk) 01:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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