Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/*Deh₂nu

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Proto-Indo-European mythology#Water deities. Liz Read! Talk! 22:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Deh₂nu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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This is one of a number of pages about proto-indo-european reconstructed deities. A few of these are genuinely independently notable, such as *Dyēus, but mostly they are highly speculative. This one in particular is very speculative, and the page itself quotes the best authority on this as "there is really no evidence for a specific river goddess". The encyclopaedic information on this page can all be found at Proto-Indo-European mythology and there is nothing that can be spun out from that page that does not leap into the grounds of speculation, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Although I don't oppose a redirect, I don't really think anyone is going to be typing *Deh₂nu into search (and even if they did, they would find that page), so delete is probably better. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Not enough information to justify an article separate from Proto-Indo-European mythology. Occidental𓍝Phantasmagoria [T/C] 18:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Proto-Indo-European mythology#Water deities: The relevant things to say about the idea may already be present there, but as *Deh₂nu has an average of 11 hits per day and Deh₂nu has 5 I think a redirect is useful, even if a part of those hits are clicks on the link at that target, and because WP:Redirects are cheap. So no reason not go that WP:Alternative to deletion which also preserves the content in the history for possible future use. Daranios (talk) 19:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreeing with Daranios, unless this AfD finds compelling reason that the article history should be deleted. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said in the nomination, I don't oppose a redirect, but just to note that the page history is not deleted when a page is deleted, it is merely hidden. The revision history is still publicly accessible. Here is an example from another of these.[1] The content of the page will not be publicly accessible though, although undeletion requests can be made to Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion‎, and these are typically restored to draft space for editors to work on and develop.
    A good case for retaining history, accessibly with a redirect, can be made if there is information here that is not on or from the proposed redirect target that might conceivably be used there. That might include references 3-6 on this page, although in my opinion, 3, 4, and 6 are self published and not WP:RS. 5 is a conference paper that does at least speak about Dánu and speculates *deh2nu- or *dánu- as proto-indo-european (PIE) roots. Then it speaks of Dánava and finds PIE roots in *dánawo-, dánu-. That one is relevant and could be sufficient reason to redirect, although it is OR to find and settle on *Deh₂nu as the name of a reconstructed goddess as the paper comes to no such conclusions, and is, in any case, a conference paper self published by its author. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:54, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per Daranios. Srnec (talk) 14:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remsense 15:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.