User talk:TheGreatChesapeakeHurricane

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I saw you add information about several storms from 1847, complete with a track map that you uploaded yourself. Consider this your only warning. You're not allowed to add false or made up information to Wikipedia. Everything you add must have a source. The Chenoweth Paper you cited makes no mention of several of these storms. Do you by chance have a reputable source for any of these storms? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Did you make up the information? If you're looking to be a productive member of Wikipedia, then I suggest you do more research. There are plenty of areas that could use some attention, and we don't need people checking for false information. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey Hurricanehink, I am sorry about what happened, first I am new to Wikipedia I really don't have an idea on how to work this, and second, no the information I got are from Documents and etc mainly from Calvert and St Mary's County, in Maryland. As you seem like you know what your doing, am I able to forward the Documents and information about the hurricanes that were left out to you to overcite and edit the pages properly, I also have a buddy that works for NHC (National Hurricane Center) which I am able to get information and documents that are currently not public. Anyways if we can work something out some time, and prove the information, that would be great, (and the Wind speed and storm surge data were all estimates made by the NOAA, from private sources who have gone over the hurricanes)!

Best Regards, Mike

Hi there Mike, thanks for the reply. I should note that if the information is not public, then it should not be on Wikipedia. Likewise, you shouldn't be uploading track maps yourself and presenting them as works of the National Weather Service. Unless, of course, you are an employee of NWS/NHC, which would be a different story. Has the information been authorized for released to the public? I wouldn't want your friend at the NHC to get in trouble, as the Atlantic hurricane reanalysis project is subject to revisions and thorough analysis to make sure the information is valid and correct. Adding two major hurricanes would be quite notable, especially the one for Virginia which would be its only major hurricane landfall on record. Is the information you added part of a larger reanalysis that is in the process of being done? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:54, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey again, Currently writing this on Mobile so please excuse any errors, but back to the point. The Information on these projects are still being researched (1769 as well as 1847) and are still be looked into. As of the 1769 one, we are mostly done, and for the 1847 one, we are still looking into it for more data. We are currently trying to dig as much information as possible for these 2 Major storms, there for we can have a early start for the HURREX 21 Hurricane Exercise. Most of this updated data was found during the HURREX 18 Hurricane Exercise in 2018 for Hurricane Cora (A Hypothetical Hurricane for planning)! The Tracks are from NHC, however are not on the main page since they currently don't support any tracks before 1851 currently (Since they may be inaccuracy). I don't work for NOAA, however I help out with Naval Station in Norfolk with the Hurricane Exercise. Thanks for your response again, and if needed, I'll get back to you with more information and more accurate information for these 2 storms, or have someone else update it. Again thank you, Have a great day my man!! TheGreatChesapeakeHurricane (talk) 01:26, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@TheGreatChesapeakeHurricane: I've independently verified with a researcher on the forefront of pre-1851 seasons that no such major hurricane occurred along the East Coast. A major hurricane hitting Washington, D.C. would not have flown under the radar, even way back then. The track map of the 1847 is not a product of the NHC as they've done no such work on the season. It's blatantly fake to those familiar with the style and as such you've falsified a government document. Please do not continue down this route with falsified information. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 03:28, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: I just read the revision text...kudos for holding back, but I'm not sure why you even considered this as plausible. 7,000 deaths in the United States would not have been missed. Next time you add false information you will be permanently blocked, TheGreatChesapeakeHurricane. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 03:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)