User talk:Ponyo

Might just be weird

I noticed WestVirginiaWX's comments at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lokicat3345, which were made after I closed the report. WVWX was created on June 1, and they've already amassed almost 300 edits, many of which are weather-related, along with a slew of redirects and bothering every user known to man about Draft:list of particularly dangerous situation watches, which they call an "abandoned draft". They don't look like Lokicat to me, but they could be some other weather sock, and their editing is certainly suspicious enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Well it's not this master, and nothing obvious popped up for Yamla or he would have mentioned it in the report. I'll see if the behavioural evidence aligns with anyone else, though I'm guessing they just edited as an IP a lot before creating the account.- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I think the history of IP editing prior to account creation is most likely, unless new evidence comes to light.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed the June 5 report, sorry. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I briefly glanced at this and noticed an IP that has been editing for several months that stopped right after this user began editing. I'd lean towards "they finally registered". Edit: Not a CU statement, spotted this just through article histories. -- ferret (talk) 15:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

• Hey Bbb23, I have a question! If I use the {{glr}} template at SPI, does that ring a bell somewhere that alerts the Stewards that a lock is needed? Or am I only supposed to use it if I, myself, have requested a global lock somewhere? I've asked this before but I don't remember the answer.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  I'm flattered - and surprised - that you think I know anything about templates. That said, my best guess is it creates a pretty image and that's all. In some cases those icons/cues can be used to categorize things, e.g., {{clerk request}} in the SPI table. If that's done with glr, I don't know where you'd find that. My suggestion is you ask someone more knowledgeable, like zzuuzz or NinjaRobotPirate. General Notability would be great, but he hasn't been around in quite some time.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  Hmmm. I've seen you use it at SPI. Do you only add it when you've made a request to the Stewards for a global lock?-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  It'd help if you'd refresh my memory. It must be quite a while ago. I know I used to use those pretty things when I was a CU but since I haven't, I just use unadorned prose. In the old days, the SPI helper script didn't have the ability to request global locks, and I never liked going to Meta - still don't - so what I recall doing was pinging stewards at SPI and asking - made my life easier. I believe sometimes, I requested glocks on en.wiki but outside of SPI by going to the steward's Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  I guess I'm thinking of this which I saw today. You're correct, you just wrote it out the old-fashioned way.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  I'd like to amend my answer on one point. It's not the "clerk request" template that causes the categorization of the SPI table. I'm fairly sure it's changing the case status to "clerk" that does that.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  • It looks like the template just posts an image without doing any magic. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Possible sock

Hi, could you check if this account is a sockpuppet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hidolo Its a newly registered single-purpose account who does nothing other than adding "far-right" or similar to political parties, even if the statement is not supported by sources (eg. here, he/she added "far-right" 1, even though it was not mentioned anywhere is the provided source 1 and was describing a completely different party). The user seems to already be familiar with tagging users and WP:3O (1) which leads me to believe that this is not the first time this person has edited here -- FMSky (talk) 16:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Without more specific evidence and/or a suspected master, this would be a bit of a fishing expedition. This may be better reviewed via AN/I.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm out the door too, but, FMSky, you can consider filing at [Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AndresHerutJaim]], and asking User:KrakatoaKatie or User:Maxim or User:Sdrqaz to have a look: they are the most recent three CUs to have looked at one of the ranges they are editing on--but there have been a half dozen more CUs looking on that range. (Ponyo, the edits looked familiar to me--the political tagging) I'm not familiar enough with that user, sorry. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Visa policy of Albania

Dear Ponyo, Can you explain to me why you returned the notification for the visa agreement with Azerbaijan to the Future changes section?

- I made that change because it has now entered into force as an agreement and it makes no sense to add it as information because it causes confusion among readers.

- One more thing, if it is possible for you to change the color to green on the map "Visa policy of Albania" for the state of Azerbaijan?

Thank you Brizton (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Brizton: Please feel free to restore any edits of yours that I may have inadvertently reverted while cleaning up after a prolific block evader.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit count

Who cares how many edits you have? I have WAY more than you do. Like Wikipedia articles, it's not quality but quantity that matters. So stuff that in your you-have-more-hats-than-I-do, and my agent fee is going up by 10% effective 30 days from now. You have the right to cancel the agency with a 165,000+ early cancellation fee.

On a wholly related topic, where did I get the idea that Bishonen lives in Canada? Or at least that other commonwealth country, England?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

You thought Bish was Canadian? 'Zilla doesn't mind her "please" an "thank yous" and Darwinbish is never sorry. Also, appreciate the 30 day notice - I'll be away for a chunk of July and will get my $$$$'s worth well before the increase kicks in. -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll be away for a chunk of July. And now you know why your edit count is less than mine. You still have this ridiculous notion that you should have a life outside Wikipedia. Stuff and nonsense. Have fun, wherever you're off to.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Exotic Alberta locales await!-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Ponyo, thanks for protecting the Antarpat (TV series) and Abeer Gulal redirects. There's more so I need to put something together at the very least for a RFPP request. I keep coming across them while researching another sock/UPE farm and was planning to file an SPI but set it aside. Do you think an SPI will be useful given these are IPs? Part of me feels like it should be documented but I am also lazy so there's that too lol. S0091 (talk) 18:45, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

SPI is really poor at dealing with India-based UPE like this - the ranges and ISPs are just too dynamic for blocks to be effective. Protection is a blunter tool, but one of the only left available, unfortunately.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I will pursue protection. Thanks again. S0091 (talk) 19:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Pages needed attention

These pages required protection against disruption by same sockfarm especially by बादशाह and Hashid Khan these pages are being continuesly vandalized by same sockGroup see these pages if are eligible for the protection, Siege of Ontala (1599) Chavda (Rajput clan),[1]Vaghela (Rajput clan),[2] because these all pages were redirected by @Rosguill:[3],[4] for poor sources/no coverage and Siege_of_Ontala_(1599) was redirected after AFD-discusion by Star Mississippi.223.123.1.23 (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I've protected the redirects for Siege of Ontala (1599) and Vaghela (Rajput clan) due to the history of socking in both and the AfD outcome of Siege of Ontala (1599). Chavda (Rajput clan) isn't as clear cut; it can be protected if there is additional disruption.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! For digging into every page's history separately and PP. For Chavda (Rajput clan), Chavda dynasty, Vaghela dynasty, List of battles in Rajasthan or other pages where this sockfarm has been disrupting for the last 2_3 years, I'll ask later for PP if they bring new entries through new accounts, but generally dynasties-related pages like Vaghela dynasty and Chavda dynasty do not require any protection as such pages are regularly being watched by Wiki volunteers. 223.123.6.206 (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

revdel

Per advice from Nickps, I am requesting the revdel of all edits in User:Immanuelle related to my tagging, since I see you in CAT:RFRD. - Altenmann >talk 21:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't see how any of the revision deletion criteria apply to your edits (unless I missed something egregious). I think it best we just chalk it up to a learning experience and move on.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Political usernames

Neighhh, my little Ponyo. These two accounts were created six hours apart, and have been taken to WP:UAA by two separate users:

Trumpforpresident2024

Joebidenbadpresident

Secretlondon said she didn't think they were bad enough to block since they hadn't edited, which made several people angry. But I've got a different angle: we don't actually see a lot of usernames of this nature. Isn't it likely those two are socks? Is it possible to CU them without contributions? Bishonen | tålk 22:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC).

Most accounts don't edit so we have a very very high threshold for blocking ones that haven't edited. Secretlondon (talk) 23:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I didn't reject them either, I left them open for others to deal with if they wanted to. Secretlondon (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for being defensive. Secretlondon (talk) 23:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I know you left them open for others, and altogether I didn't mean to criticise you, Secretlondon — I don't feel strongly either way about blocking those accounts — I was only thinking of a possible sock angle. What do you think, aren't they likely to be one and the same? Bishonen | tålk 23:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC).

Even if they are socks, we don't normally block no-contribution socks unless there's an earlier master. I suspect they're different people getting ready for tomorrow's debate.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually User:Alexf blocked them. Secretlondon (talk) 09:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Trolling or socks is immaterial. The names were eminently blockable. There is no place here for political discussion with usernames. -- Alexf^(talk) 11:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Under "Usernames that are likely to offend other contributors or cause disruption to productive Wikipedia processes or discussions, or make harmonious editing difficult or impossible to achieve; e.g. by containing profanities, or referencing highly contentious events or controversies."? There's nothing in the policy explicitly about politics. Secretlondon (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

I would have blocked the Joebiden account as an attack name regardless of whether they've edited or not. Probably would've left the Trump one until they edited, then go from there. <shrug>. As they're both blocked now, any socking aspect is moot.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Sock

Hi! I'm pretty sure this is another sock for BKeira930. Doctorhawkes (talk) 10:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Blocked and tagged. Thanks,-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Rquest

Hi,

Can you please merge Sport shooting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Qualification with Shooting at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Qualification?

Thanks Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)