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Typical words and phrases

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[Drmies]

[Kelapstick]

They're both fond of the word "numerous", esp. when it comes to editors hounding them, or editors who agree with them that editor/admin X is guilty of multiple infractions (bullying, harassing, stalking, etc.)--see below, "On Talk:Jimbo Wales".

In edit summaries

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[Drmies]

Some catchwords and phrases in edit summaries, many of which to do with attempts to claim notability or merging of content. Numbers in brackets occur to frequency; these are "clean", that is, they aren't part of an included section title. In order, these numbers are occurrences for ChildofMidnight and Candleabracadabra, respectively, with one exception, explained below.

  • "important subject" (10, 2)
  • "very important subject" (1, 2)
  • "somewhat notable" (1, 6)
  • "seems notable" (13, 4)
  • "looks okay" (7, 3)
  • "should be merged" (5, 6)
  • "wholesale removal" (7, 4)

The most damning instance is "nevermind" (typical of how CoM and Candle correct themselves; in user talk space, this is done in subsequent edits to the text). "nevermind", capitalized only once, and always at the beginning of a summary, often followed by a period: 18 for CoM, 3 for Candle, and 1 for Freakshownerd, a verified CoM sock. CoM uses "Nevermind" as a single word in-text also, here, for instance. CoM uses it in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive547, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black president ("Nevermind Drmies, he's European"), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commerce revision.

"Wikispeak"

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[Kelapstick]

Articles, overlap

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[Kelapstick]

Article creation: referencing style

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[Drmies and Kelapstick]

Both are prolific article creators, even if, as Kelapstick and numerous (!) others have suggested, a lot of them are on barely notable topics with bloggy or otherwise unreliable references. The topics food and architects have already been mentioned, but Los Angeles and Florida landmarks, restaurants, parks, trails, and other features are legion as well. Journalists were a minor but important interest.

Note that in "Overlap", below, I am making reference on occasion to a "typical" citation style; some details are given in this section.

Writing style

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[Kelapstick]

  • CaC and CoM have the same proseline style of writing, following this format:
This is a sentence.[1] This is another unrelated sentence.[2] Here is yet another unrelated sentence[3]

Overlap: articles edited by Candle and CoM

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[Drmies]

The list below (courtesy of Pietrodn's Intersect tool, which gives 136 articles and talk pages) could be extended; selected are the somewhat esoteric articles, those without high traffic. In bold are particularly salient examples. Anecdotal evidence suggests that Candle, who occasionally reverts vandalism to those articles, still has a kind of CoM-watchlist.

And speaking of esoteric: Talk:Better than sex cake was tweaked by CoM and got a comment from Candle (talk page has seven editors; Candle voted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Is It Really Better Than Sex? Cake

"Climate variability'

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This section written by Viriditas, and posted on User talk:Callanecc. I made one change, to the diff in the first sentence, which didn't work (as is the case with some others) because Climate variability is now a redirect. [Drmies]

  • In 2009, ChildofMidnight removed a redirect and restored a POV fork of the climate change topic called climate variability. [7] He proceeded to "work" on it from June 28-29, 2009.[8] I use the term "work" in quotes because it looks like he forked the material over from other articles like the parent topic. The POV fork was properly restored to the appropriate redirect on January 1, 2010. [9]
  • ChildofMidnight was blocked by arbcom on March 9, 2010,[10] and abandoned his account ten days later.[11]
  • Just five days ago, on May 15, 2014, Candleabracadabra restored this obscure article.[12] He then proceeded to "work" on it from May 15-19, restoring the bulk of material added by ChildofMidnight.[13]
  • On the same day, Candleabracadabra restored an alternate redirect, Climatic variability, and reverted to ChildofMidnight's version.[14]
  • The two primary editors of both redirects are ChildofMidnight and Candleabracadabra, with edits separated four years apart.
  • On May 17, he created the article climatological normal, a new stub article that links to climate variability.

Various disruptive behaviors

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These are many. Perhaps the most striking, given the recent Native Hawaiian cuisine spat, is the moving of pages during an AfD or other discussion.

[Kelapstick]

Ragging on admins

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[Drmies]

Candle

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Nyttend: "Are you just being disruptive?" Part of Candle being on a tear against Nyttend. Note how in the AN thread Candle started about Nyttend he uses the typical CoM language--scroll for "It's unfortunate that Nyttend seems to have gotten away with his bullying tactics. I don't think that's appropriate behavior for an admin." "I think bullying is wrong. Period. Nyttend should shape up." "He has banned me from his talk page but is now stalking my edits." "...to find out whether an admin can bully and intimidate an editor away from working on an article." After GregJackP told him to drop the stick, "GregJ, if you don't think issuing multiple bogus warnings, threats and accusations, stalking my edits to other pages and expanding the dispute while prohibiting me from contacting him on his talk page, and making personal attacks against me isn't bullying I think you are mistaken." "Nyttend's bullying has stopped." " I don't think this kind of diruptive antagonism is appropriate from an admin." Earlier on Nyttend's talk page: "You are an admin and are expected to conduct yourself in a manner consistent with high standards."

CoM

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"incivility and nastiness" on User talk:Wizardman (CoM), also on User talk:ChildofMidnight/Archive 11. "Nastiness and incivility" on User talk:ChildofMidnight/Archive 13

"hounding, stalking and harassment", "hounded, harassed, and stalked" on same

Candle and CoM, same admin

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[Drmies]

Typical interaction with an administrator (Stephen over a deleted article: this by PicodeGato, a blocked CoM sock (article since then moved to Paul E. Tierney); this by Candle, regarding Merrimack Canoe Company, in full passive-aggressive mode, with the usual complaint about how "Wikipedia is fast losing contributors".

On Talk:Jimbo Wales

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One could have a field day going through their usually specious contributions to Jimbo's talk page, but it should be noted that Candle does not yet have the vitriol that CoM had for Jimbo, though you'll find plenty of bile for admins.

  • On [User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_93]] is a particularly silly example by Candle, complaining: "Almost all of my previous contributions have been put up for speedy deletion which doesn't allow much time for building. I thought this was supposed to be a collaborative enterprise? With cooperation and assumptions of good faith? That hasn't been my experience in dealing with the administrators here."
  • Here is CoM, kindly giving Jimbo a couple of weeks to completely overhaul the way in which Wikipedia is governed, and do something else--no one responds to his first point, fortunately; archived at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 50.
  • Here is [User talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=317772139#Grievances CoM in typical passive-aggressive fashion] tells Jimbo where it's at: "Not exactly a shining example of Wikipedia's collegiality and collaboration at its best, but if you think that's a helpful way to treat editors who may be unfamiliar with our procedures and policies (which aren't exactly intuitive mind you) then it's no wonder we have the tensions and animosities that are so prevalent."
  • CoM again, about the alternate accounts he thinks all admins seem to have.
  • CoM responds in a session started by his pal Grundle2600 about, what else, Obama. Note his response to Tarc: "There has never been any kind of finding that my editing violates the NPOV policy, quite the opposite in fact as your attempts at censorship and bias have been noted repeatedly by numerous editors." "Numerous" is a fave word of Candle's as well: "You obviously learned nothing and remain unrepentant from your past experiences where numerous editors pointed out to you that it was disrespectful" (that's me he's talking to). (For the follow-up to Candle's accusation of antisemitism, see this edit.) Here is Candle being harassed by NUMEROUS "buddies" of mine, and here it's Viriditas who has confused Candle with their "numerous moves and redirect[s]".
  • CoM ranting about how "admins punish good faith editors who are being baited, harassed and trolled", "one of the main reasons we are losing so many editors who give up in frustration".
  • Note how fond Candle is of posting content-related stuff on Jimbo's talk page--this about Urhobo cuisine; here is CoM at the end of a long thread about retouching photographs, and here is Candle again on, well, acoustic harassment.

Miscellaneous

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[Drmies] Fidel Castrato insulting another editor, after participating in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kresimir Chris Kunej (2nd nomination), where he made a friendly jab at me. Fidel's retaliation is here, revenge on MarcusMax. Child edited the article here, admins only. (This to indicate that Fidel is also a CoM sock, as my veiled edit summary recognizes

Candle disruption/personal insults

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[Drmies]

This is a selection of fresh ones. I have not included the charges he leveled at me, about my abusive bullying, my drinking, my antisemitism, etc--they are there, in plain sight, on Candle's own talk page and some on mine. Various other insults toward Kelapstick are found on Candle's talk page.

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