Talk:SMS Breslau

Discrepancies between sources

That little non-action on 27 Feb 1916 isn't mentioned in Langensiepen & Güleryüz; they just refer to carrying troops to Trebizond and oil to Sinope. I'll have to see if Nekrasov has anything about it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, done with L & G; I've added their information in Notes. Now to dig up Nekrasov and see what he has to say. I redid the lede; lemme know what you think.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:17, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

That looks fine to me - the lead I wrote was more of a placeholder than anything. Parsecboy (talk) 23:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:SMS Breslau/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MisterBee1966 (talk · contribs) 12:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Feedback is based on Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz, volume 2, pages 139–142, in no particular order. MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1993). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe. Vol. 1–10. Ratingen: Mundus Verlag. ASIN B003VHSRKE.

• Christened by the mayor of Breslau
  • Added. Parsecboy (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
• Initially only 3 smoke stacks, the 4th was added after initial sea trials (reason unknown)
  • That's not supported in Gröner who shows four funnels in the 1912 drawing.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
    • I leave this up to you what to make of the info, maybe a footnote? MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
      • Added it in as a note. Parsecboy (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
• HRS page 142 state, hit by 5 mines, 330 killed but only 133 saved and taken POW
  • Added a line on the discrepancy. Parsecboy (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
• 2 dabs: Boiler room and Sinope
  • Fixed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
• crew size is 354 up to 374 (HRS p. 139), both figures do not match 330 killed plus 133/162 rescued
  • Crew size always expands during wartime, but I have no detailed information.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
• Armament in 1916 was 2 × 15 cm SK L/45 guns; 10 × 10.5 cm SK L/45 guns after the battle at Odessa in April 1915. Midilli was refiited at the shipyard O.I.I. (Osmanli Imparatorlügü Istinye, Tersanesi). The 10 × 10.5 cm SK L/45 guns were replaced in July 1916 – April 1917
  • This is a little confusing. My sources state two 10.5 cm guns were replaced by 15 cm guns by Feb. 1916. I don't have a good date for the replacement of the others so I can incorporate your data if you can provide complete bibliographic info.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
• The source from Hownam-Meek is not used/referenced maybe move to a further reading section?
  • I've moved it back into the refs as I used it to cite the 5 mines.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)