Talk:Fatima Payman

Persian/Arabic script in infobox

I have looked through , as was recommended to me by User: Y. Dongchen (advocate of script in infobox) and discovered that none of the major politicians (i.e. Dai Le, Jenny Leong, Mehreen Faruqi etc) feature native script in their infobox. I had already removed the script however a fellow editor had an issue with it so it would be better for the larger Fatima Payman editing community to give their opinion on this unique matter DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 11:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I am not aware of any definitive styling rule of whether to put the native names of people in infoboxes or the lede.

In the lead only:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_Le (Australian MP)
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tung_Ngo (member of the South Australia Legislative Council)

In the infobox only:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashraf_Ghani (former Afghan president)

Both:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Leontief
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristina_Pimenova (Russian−American fashion model who moved to US at age 10)
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Pahlavi,_Crown_Prince_of_Iran (last Iranian prince in exile)

Hence, my opinion is that there isn't one particular way to be necessarily merited over any other. Y. Dongchen (talk) 11:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I would just like to note that it may be different styling in the Australian based articles as compared to the articles of overseas, as per the difference in WP:AUP. For example, all of the articles you had listed above that have it in the infobox, or both, are international articles, and not articles being overseen by WP:AUP. DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 11:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick reply. I am not familiar with that Wikiproject and will take a look. Are you referring to different styling for some Australia-specific templates? The template used here is "officeholder". Y. Dongchen (talk) 11:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Follow-up: So I did a few rough searches using PetScan. These are two biographies which I identified to be using "native_name". They are both written in the Australian political context and included in that Wikiproject.

Jason Li

Pierre Yang

So it seems that the Australian editors largely act quite similarly to "overseas" editors of the aforementioned articles. Y. Dongchen (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed ,script is not necessary. I don't see any added value. Gofteand (talk) 01:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

You can also add to examples Anne Aly (Egypt born) which doesn't have native script in infobox Gofteand (talk) 04:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

If someone else also wants the non-Latin writing to be taken out of the infobox, let me know and I'll move it into the lede. Y. Dongchen (talk) 05:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I think a necessary consensus has been found, I will remove it from the info box but absolutely go ahead and put it in the lead DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 08:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the initiative. I see that it's less common in the Australian context. I'm adding it to the lead. Y. Dongchen (talk) 08:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Done. For reference, I have emulated the same foreign-language name style as applied to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez — before the date of birth in the parentheses. Y. Dongchen (talk) 09:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)