Talk:Diamonds from Sierra Leone

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September 23, 2021Good article nomineeListed
September 21, 2022Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 18, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Kanye West's "Diamonds" was re-recorded as "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" after Q-Tip informed him about blood diamonds in Sierra Leone?
Current status: Good article

Yeah....

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Because, like, only conflict diamonds are mined by underpaid, suffering workers and child labor. Those regular diamonds that "wealthy Europeans" wear (of course Europeans, never, ever hip-hop stars blinging it to the max! That would probably be racist or something) wear re totally guilt free, because the workers are all well-paid, comfortable and live in peace, harmony and plenty. This is like a song written by someone who watched a news article, didn't get the actual point, and then went and made a video about it to gain "credibility" among other people who knew even less than he did. But as long as the diamonds are being used to fund WARS, then there is no problem any more, and rappers...er, "wealthy Europeans"....can drape themselves with as many as they like. Let's just not look at the gold mining industry while we're at it. When is Kanye going to donate his millions to help poor people in Africa? We're still waiting on Clooney and DiCaprio and all the other rich, entitled hypocrites. "Conflict diamonds" are just a distraction to keep people from paying attention to the rest of the industry, and to give the big diamond cartels an excuse to solidify the entire trade in their own hands. Don't like competition? Go to the UN and come up with a big sob story about how the competition is using "funding illegal wars" (whatever those may be) and causing death and suffering, and get them all shut down. Handy that suddenly no diamond except those sold by the big cartels is legal now. AnnaGoFast (talk) 00:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 15:58, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Eh, why not. – zmbro (talk) 15:58, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking on this large article, I have left comments in response on "Coldest Winter" if you have anything to tell me in reply! --K. Peake 16:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kyle Peake, Cool Almost done with this review, so don't comment until I'm finished. – zmbro (talk) 16:59, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Zmbro Good to see you are done now, I'll look when I get home and have you made your mind up about the other GAN? --K. Peake 17:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Infobox and lead

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  • I don't think the (originally "Diamonds") doesn't appear necessary
  • "With the exception of Brion, the producers served as songwriters for it alongside" → "The producers, with the exception of Brion, are credited as songwriters alongside"
  • "who both received credit due to having written work that is sampled." this is worded weird. I'd try something different
  • Do you think it's necessary to mention "Diamonds Are Forever" was a James Bond theme? Just wondering
  • "A Jay-Z–featuring remix" → "A remix featuring Jay-Z"
  • "The remix samples Bassey's "Diamonds Are Forever"" why is this here? To me, this implies the original doesn't.
  • "sees Jay-Z rapping in the second part." the second part of what? Do you mean the second verse?
  • Shouldn't it be mentioned in the lead that the remix is on the album while the original appears as a bonus track?

Background and recording

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  • Could we add that image of Jon Brion for flair? Section feels empty
  • "produced for and while watching 2004 film" → "produced for; while watching the 2004 film"
  • "hip hop project, and the decision" feels like a comma splice → hip hop project; the decision
  • "for 1971" → "for the 1971"
  • "John Barry and Don Black also received songwriting credits since they wrote singer Shirley Bassey's titular theme song for 1971 James Bond film Diamonds Are Forever, which is sampled." This whole sentence should be reworded to read that because of the sample they received credits.
  • I'm confused, who cleared the sample then if Bassey didn't know about it? The songwriters?
  • It is not officially reported who cleared the sample, though the law specialist's mention of West likely gaining permission from one of her representatives delivers significant insight. --K. Peake 08:12, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Composition and lyrics

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  • Add a small description for Dave Tozer. Had to click on his page to learn who he was.

Release and reception

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  • Section seems a little quote-heavy. Maybe try to paraphrase a little bit, especially instances where only one word is put in quotes

Music video

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  • "He elaborated that the content "gives you a timeless feel, and we're gonna shoot it in black and white"" The black and white part can be paraphrased; it'd probably work better put before the "timeless" part
  • "Contrasting with West having served as the director of numerous visuals around 2005, the music video was directed by Hype Williams." put what's after the comma before contrasting

Commercial performance

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  • "On the chart issue dated May 21, 2005, "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" entered the US Billboard Hot 100 at number 94" put what's before the comma after 94; when I started reading the sentence I didn't know what chart was being discussed.
  • "declining 11 places to number 94" → "declining 11 places back to number 94"
  • "The song peaked at number 21" → "The song also peaked at number 21"

Live performances and other usage

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  • Make sure this section flows well and doesn't read like a bunch of bullet points thrown together (first two sentences especially read this way). One way to fix this, especially if the sentence is just "he performed it here...", combine a few of these a say "He also performed it at this,[1], that,[2] and that.[3]" Make sense? To me, this is easier for flow and doesn't read like "He performed it here". "He performed it there".
  • "spray-painted with gold" drop the 'with'
  • "West performed the song at 8:56 p.m." is the timestamp significant? If not there's really no reason to have it
  • "West came out at 9 p.m." same as the above point
  • "started his appearance with a performance of the song" → "started his appearance with "Diamonds from Sierra Leone""
  • "which began from the set's 1:05:37 mark" again is this necessary?
  • "mostly referencing the West of the continent." I thought this meant Kanye West at first, not the geographic west side of a continent. I'd reword (west doesn't need to be capitalized here)

Remix

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  • Shouldn't you mention the remix's earlier placement on the tracklisting of LR?
  • Who is Jacob the Jeweler?
  • The section feels less quote-heavy than the earlier section, but just make sure to paraphrase when you can.

Track listings

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  • No lengths?

Credits and personnel

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  • Looks good

Charts

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  • Looks good

Certifications

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  • Looks good

Release history

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  • Looks good

References

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  • I found one instance of author being used instead of first/last. Make sure every use is the latter
  • Looking at the site's Wiki article alone, it was founded by a drummer from well known band the Roots and is heavily reliant on recording artists, while there is clearly a separate message board for users to post on that is different from the actual articles published. --K. Peake 08:12, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is Oxford Mail like the Daily Mail or is it actually reliable?
  • Didn't see any instances of overlinking so I think we're good there
  • What happened to that copyvio detector? Can't find it now

Final thoughts

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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 05:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 08:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Modified ALT0 to T:DYK/P1
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