Talk:Accessibility of transport in London

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: That is quite a tour-de-force of an article - well done and well referenced and constructed. To the extend that it can be condensed a little more (and 4-paragraph lede installed), that would even be more helpful for casual readers, but great job. thanks Aszx5000 (talk) 12:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks hugely! I've tried to copy the layout of similar articles in New York, Toronto and Boston, that's why it's concise. Thanks for your feedback! Turini2 (talk) 12:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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London Taxi with wheelchair ramp

• ... that in 2006, London became one of the first major cities to have an fully accessible bus fleet?

• Source: https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2007/december/transport-for-london-wins-independent-living-award

• ALT1: ... that all London taxis have been accessible to wheelchair passengers since 2000? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/travel/rolling-along-in-london.html
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• Comment: Hi, this article has been a labour of love for 3 years and it's finally moved to mainspace! I offer a variety of hooks (positive and negative), happy for feedback on this - there's a fair few relevant photos too.

Moved to mainspace by Turini2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Turini2 (talk) 12:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Some problems need fixing. TheNuggeteer (talk) 02:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I've made changes and comments as required to the article. I think I'd like to focus on the positive hooks, with this photo instead? Turini2 (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

London bus with wheelchair ramp

I think I found a better hook.

• Alt2: that only a third of London Underground stations have step free access?

I think that is more interesting as since the TfL bus fleet has been accessible for a while. but since the LU is the oldest metro systems, its partially accessible with only a third. Also with taxis, I assume you're talking about the TfL ones since other services like Uber likely don't have the accessibility scheme in place and use a normal car. I also think something that is not mostly accessible is better and more interesting that those that are fully accessible. For example, a hook stating that the Elizabeth line is fully accessible (even including the old stations) wouldn't be interesting as new(er) systems are expected to be accessible/have step free systems. JuniperChill (talk) 09:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I'm happy to go with that hook with a minor tweak for "step-free"- yes, I mean "London black taxi", technically Uber is not a taxi (Vehicle for hire). I didn't want to be too negative about accessibility, but the Tube one is balanced. Could use the lead photo - unsure on caption though! Turini2 (talk) 10:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply as I was out and about. Anyway, I don't really need to see the point of the photo if we are talking about 1/3rd of LU stations accessible since I cannot think what demonstrates it, plus its very tight for images on DYK because only one image a day (or two images a day in the event of a backlog) for the ~8 hooks. Also @TheNuggeteer:, what do you think of the new hook as you initially reviewed it? JuniperChill (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I think "only" should be removed, but other than that, it's fine. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Alt2: that a third of London Underground stations have step-free access?
  Source: https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/step-free-access?intcmp=1954

All other issues with the article are now resolved (it has a more substantive lead, fixed words etc) Turini2 (talk) 09:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Now its time to turn the signal green now that the hook issue has been fixed. I didn't know step-free has a hyphen so I'm fine with that alongside removing the 'only'. JuniperChill (talk) 10:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)