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* Does appear to fail NEVENT. Also has the potential to be COI creation. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 18:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' Does appear to fail NEVENT. Also has the potential to be COI creation. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 18:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
*Comment. National news sources like [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-dade-schools-cyberattacks-new-school-year-third-day-logging-on/ CBS], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/miami-dade-public-schools-remote-learning-platform-endures-days-cyberattacks-n1239129 NBC] and [https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/514802-miami-dade-school-district-virtual-classes-disrupted-by-cyberattack The Hill] just started covering this event over the past 24 hours. That should take care of [[WP:GEOSCOPE]]. It is early to determine whether [[WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE]] exists. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 18:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
* '''Comment'''. National news sources like [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-dade-schools-cyberattacks-new-school-year-third-day-logging-on/ CBS], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/miami-dade-public-schools-remote-learning-platform-endures-days-cyberattacks-n1239129 NBC] and [https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/514802-miami-dade-school-district-virtual-classes-disrupted-by-cyberattack The Hill] just started covering this event over the past 24 hours. That should take care of [[WP:GEOSCOPE]]. It is early to determine whether [[WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE]] exists. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 18:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' to [[Miami-Dade County Public Schools#History]] for now. It is a significant event in the school district's history (which currently ends with 2013). If RS coverage persists to grow more than a stub, a stand-alone article can be spun back out. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]])
*'''Merge''' to [[Miami-Dade County Public Schools#History]] for now. It is a significant event in the school district's history (which currently ends with 2013). If RS coverage persists to grow more than a stub, a stand-alone article can be spun back out. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]])
*Comment. I'm the one who created the article and I have no association with the Miami-Dade Public School system nor do I have any relatives who are part of it. Therefore no conflict of interest exists. Also, more cyberattacks may come in the following weeks. MDPS has experienced several in the past so these could lead to more crashes. Please know this did not just affect the schools in the city of Miami but rather all the schools in [[Miami-Dade County]], a much larger area. Finally, the MDPS is the fifth largest school district in the US. All of this should warrant an article. [[User:Lechonero|Lechonero]] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 19:19, 3 September 2020‎ (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment'''. I'm the one who created the article and I have no association with the Miami-Dade Public School system nor do I have any relatives who are part of it. Therefore no conflict of interest exists. Also, more cyberattacks may come in the following weeks. MDPS has experienced several in the past so these could lead to more crashes. Please know this did not just affect the schools in the city of Miami but rather all the schools in [[Miami-Dade County]], a much larger area. Finally, the MDPS is the fifth largest school district in the US. All of this should warrant an article. [[User:Lechonero|Lechonero]] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 19:19, 3 September 2020‎ (UTC)</small>
:*Disrupting a large school district doesn't automatically get lasting notability. The [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Los Angeles Unified School District closure|2015 terror hoax]] that shut down LAUSD, made a bigger splash of news coverage against a bigger school district. The event article was merged for lack of lasting impact. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
:*Disrupting a large school district doesn't automatically get lasting notability. The [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Los Angeles Unified School District closure|2015 terror hoax]] that shut down LAUSD, made a bigger splash of news coverage against a bigger school district. The event article was merged for lack of lasting impact. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
:*Even if kept, this article needs a substantial rewrite. As currently written, the article is a pseudobiography of one arrest, which names and features a not yet tried minor more prominently than the events of the disruption. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
:*Even if kept, this article needs a substantial rewrite. As currently written, the article is a pseudobiography of one arrest, which names and features a not yet tried minor more prominently than the events of the disruption. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Declined PROD. This article fails WP:NEVENT. Specifically, WP:GEOSCOPE states that

An event affecting a local area and reported only by the media within the immediate region may not necessarily be notable. Coverage of an event nationally or internationally may make notability more likely, but such coverage should not be the sole basis for creating an article. However, events that have a demonstrable long-term impact on a significant region of the world or a significant widespread societal group are presumed to be notable enough for an article.

This just happened, and it essentially boils down to "Kid disrupted Miami schools for a few days". This is certainly important to the city, and while there's been some reporting of this outside, the effect isn't lasting (nor can it be immediately after the event occurred, nor is it likely to be anyway). Neither is there likely to be any outside lasting interest after the brief splash of a story it's made. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Does appear to fail NEVENT. Also has the potential to be COI creation. Naleksuh (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. National news sources like CBS, NBC and The Hill just started covering this event over the past 24 hours. That should take care of WP:GEOSCOPE. It is early to determine whether WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE exists. • Gene93k (talk) 18:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Miami-Dade County Public Schools#History for now. It is a significant event in the school district's history (which currently ends with 2013). If RS coverage persists to grow more than a stub, a stand-alone article can be spun back out. • Gene93k (talk)
  • Comment. I'm the one who created the article and I have no association with the Miami-Dade Public School system nor do I have any relatives who are part of it. Therefore no conflict of interest exists. Also, more cyberattacks may come in the following weeks. MDPS has experienced several in the past so these could lead to more crashes. Please know this did not just affect the schools in the city of Miami but rather all the schools in Miami-Dade County, a much larger area. Finally, the MDPS is the fifth largest school district in the US. All of this should warrant an article. Lechonero —Preceding undated comment added 19:19, 3 September 2020‎ (UTC)[reply]
  • Disrupting a large school district doesn't automatically get lasting notability. The 2015 terror hoax that shut down LAUSD, made a bigger splash of news coverage against a bigger school district. The event article was merged for lack of lasting impact. • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even if kept, this article needs a substantial rewrite. As currently written, the article is a pseudobiography of one arrest, which names and features a not yet tried minor more prominently than the events of the disruption. • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • A pseudobiography? Are you suggesting the info in the article is deliberately fabricated? By the way, you're free to rewrite, change or contribute to the article instead of criticizing it. I've been the only one working on it. I was thinking of rewriting it but I'm not going to put in that effort unless I know the article is going to remain in WP. Lechonero (talk) 14:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per Gene93k. WP:NOTNEWS. This is very similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyber attack on Pensacola, Florida. – The Grid (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Predicting by the end of this coverage will grow substantially. Have heard Russian panic already. Hyperbolick (talk) 21:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Clearly passes WP:GEOSCOPE and WP:EVENTCRIT#2 with widespread coverage. There is WP:SIGCOV involving, Congress, the FBI, the United States Secret Service and national news media. Here are a few: Yahoo News 1, ABC News 2, Miami Herald 3. The FBI does not get involved in "local" issues but they were involved in this investigation 4. U.S. Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell of Florida became involved 5. The United States Secret Service does not become involved in "local" issues but they were involved in this investigation 6. Lightburst (talk) 15:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The FBI does not get involved in "local" issues is just flat-out false: the FBI provides all sorts of assistance to local police forces upon request, that's one of its most important roles. And that's exactly what happened here. Ditto the Secret Service. To a first approximation, any cyber-crime carried out anywhere in the US will have the local police force asking the FBI to provide assistance. The fact that the local Congressperson has an opinion shows that she is attentive to what happens in her district, not that this "involves Congress" (it does not). --JBL (talk) 16:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]