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[edit]- ESNA European Higher Education News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominated on pl wiki for deletion as spam with possible hoax elements (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2024:07:17:ESNA European Higher Education News). It also seems to fail WP:NORG/WP:GNG. My BEFORE finds next to zero visiblity for this entity in GS/GB. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- TV9 Kannada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 07:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No reliable sources on the page to establish significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 22:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- TV9 Bangla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only press releases. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 07:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 22:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- TV9 Gujarati (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 07:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Unsourced to establish any significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- News9 Plus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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AfDed per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/News9Live Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete and salt This current version is blatantly promotional compared to the original version ("News9 Mediaverse umbrella"?!) and N is still not met at all. Nate • (chatter) 16:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 17:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Sources are comprised of a few questionable websites, some of which are "News9" sites. Not notable. Ternera (talk) 18:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete WP:G4 BrigadierG (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom, Poor sources with no significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) on the channel. clearly fails WP:NCORP. Youknow? (talk) 15:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Men's Folio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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May not meet WP:NMAGAZINE and WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage of the publication. Article is supported by sole subject's About us page at the time of nomination. Article was dratified and then subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator. – robertsky (talk) 05:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Drop Site News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. Sources are either non-independent or focused on Ryan Grim. Could be redirected/merged but I am unsure which article a redirect should point to. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails WP:SIGCOV. A handful of references, most of which are articles covering Ryan Grim's departure from The Intercept. This Semafor reference, for example, does not even mention Drop Site News by name (
its use as a reference for the claim "The Intercept provided startup funding for Drop Site News" therefore also fails verification- has been fixed). Another reference belongs to CounterPunch, a generally unreliable source (WP:COUNTERPUNCH). Another reference, to The Hill, is merely an embedded 10-minute YouTube interview with Ryan Grim. Keeping WP:NPOSSIBLE and WP:ARTN in mind, I should note that I'm unable to find any additional coverage in reliable sources. Almost every reliable (or somewhat-reliable...) source that even contains the text "Drop Site News" has apparently already been included in this article, as best I can tell. As it stands, Drop Site News lacks any kind of notability. A few mentions-in-passing and incredibly brief coverage do not suffice to establish notability. I see some mentions (in talk pages and edit descriptions) of the article's presumed future notability as further sources are anticipated to become available; I think, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that this is WP:CRYSTAL and not a valid argument for keeping the article. If it becomes notable in the future, it can be recreated. As for the idea of a redirect, I don't think it would be appropriate at this time; instead, mention of Drop Site News could easily be relegated to a few sentences in the respective articles of Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill - I'd be open to being convinced otherwise, though! GhostOfNoMeme 07:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)- Re: "...therefore also fails verification", sorry, I mixed up the references. Fixed. Legoktm (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, well no problem — thanks for fixing. :) GhostOfNoMeme 14:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Re: "...therefore also fails verification", sorry, I mixed up the references. Fixed. Legoktm (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I noted elsewhere, I think it's on the edge of notability; I expect outlets like Columbia Journalism Review and Semafor to do in-depth coverage soon enough. I don't object to moving back to draftspace pending said coverage, I largely moved it back into mainspace because the person who originally drafted it was indefinitely blocked for UPE. Legoktm (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't object to it being moved to draft space until notability can be established. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – notable already with the two writers associated with it — Drop Site News is being searched for here and on the internet, which is how I reached the stub... _ _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 14:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Drop Site News does not become notable simply due to the notability of its staff or any other involved persons. See WP:NOTINHERITED. GhostOfNoMeme 15:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since their launch, they've already done foreign reporting using sources within an influential terrorist organization. While that might be of questionable ethical value, depending on how one views the duties of a journalist, it definitely would seem to suggest that they're well-resourced and will continue to do notable cross-border coverage of one sort or another -- which, importantly, they have already done (in other words, we're not predicting the future here). I'd say the article should be kept, even if the outlet in question is unlikely to ever make it onto the list of neutral information sources for other articles. Drabconcert (talk) 20:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Drop Site News does not become notable simply due to the notability of its staff or any other involved persons. See WP:NOTINHERITED. GhostOfNoMeme 15:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify or delete - notability is not established by reliable sources, it is not automatically inherited from its founders, and Wikipedia does not predict the future to say it might be established as notable later on, that's one of the functions of draftspace. The article in its current state is not really about the organization at all, it's a WP:COATRACK for Instagram's takedown of the interview with one of the founders, which happened before this organization even existed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for now, as fails WP:GNG. At best WP:TOOSOON applies. Brief, trivial, or passing mention so far. Any context needed in a given article can be included in that article (e.g. "is a news website created by 2 guys"). Basically all we know from reliable, independent sources is that it exists, and was founded by 2 notable journalists. It went live less than a fortnight ago, it has only 2 reporters and 1 editor, and it's on based on a Substack platform, making it awfully close to, if not literally, a self-published source. Just as we don't immediately create articles on journalists just because their articles get published in notable outlets, we should not immediately create articles for every website/blog/substack/ created by notable journalists (far too many Wiki articles on outlets and journalists, even notable ones, become trivial, promotional showcases of "on this day, X published an article. Then a few days later, X published another article. Here's the title. Ain't that neat!"). --Animalparty! (talk) 02:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Neal Asbury (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After almost 14 years, the articles claims of notability are not backed up by the reliable and verifiable sources that would be required, nor was I able to find anything meaningful in a Google search that could be added. The article is an orphan and there appear to be no meaningful connections to any other article that would help flesh out a claim of notability. Alansohn (talk) 12:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The South Florida Business Journal is fine, not impressed with the other source in the article. Otherwise, I can only find mentions of his company, hiring employees or the like. Not enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- WhatsApp University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond a definition. It can be easily integrated in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution (WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already Indian WhatsApp lynchings. Gan Favourite (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect per WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article. hinnk (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the references added, keeping my !vote as is. These links [1][2][3][4] were added to support discussion of a Kerala High Court case. None of these mention the case at all, and none discuss WhatsApp University beyond using the phrase in a headline (two are political cartoons). The statement that "The phrase has…been a subject of stand-up comics" is referenced to a short review of a single comedian, where the topic is recapped very briefly. To Grabup's question below, the existing coverage isn't significant, and we're seeing how trying to present it as such means misleading readers. hinnk (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: i added some of WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Agree with @Youknowwhoistheman --BeLucky (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect I agree with @hinnk, the topic can be better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article. Xoocit (talk) 08:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Enough sources are cited to establish the subject's notability. In my opinion, if there can be a standalone article with sufficient coverage, what is the reason to redirect? GrabUp - Talk 03:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 12:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Naše novine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It existed, but I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 12:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - I agree fully with what @Boleyn: said. Боки ☎ ✎ 09:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per intro. cmt. — Sadko (words are wind) 12:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Nations Publications Limited of Malawi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or Sng. Tagged by others for this since April. Misses ncorp by far. Zero references other than their own website and I couldn't find any GNG references. North8000 (talk) 19:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect: to The Nation (Malawi), since this (AfD subject) is the parent company that owns The Nation, which is probably Malawi's oldest and generally reliable daily and weekly newspaper since 1993 being distributed locally around the country.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @North8000 Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tumbuka Arch: Sounds like a good idea. North8000 (talk) 01:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @North8000 Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- QI News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced since 2007. Literary found nothing that passes WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I can't find a single source (let alone a reliable one) mentioning this subject, so it definitely fails WP:GNG. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Variety Magazine mentioned it being in development once, in-passing [5]; that isn't substantial coverage. I doubt there is substantial coverage. Unsure about a redirect to QI; ComedyBox is a redlink. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to QI#Other_media -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 19:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - this one is really strange. NO WP:THREE meeting WP:SIGCOV, still users are not interested. Twinkle1990 (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Searched for reliable sources with SIGCOV, but can’t find single. The subject fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 03:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Proposed deletions
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